Humans harbor more potential energy than a lightning bolt yet, you aren’t taught how this energy amplifies your health or impedes it. Quantum medicine is the exploration of using your own energy to restore balance in the body to prevent or eliminate illness. Doctors Joe Dispenza and Bruce Lipton are the modern pioneers in this field however there’s data to suggest that quantum energy fields and medicine have been studied for thousands of years. More and more health practitioners like Hope Pedraza are incorporating quantum medicine into their practices as they see the vast benefits using your own energy to achieve balance. If Hope’s name sounds familiar to you – she’s been on the podcast before – Episodes 307 and 308.
Hope Pedraza is a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner, Certified Holistic Nutritionist, Reiki Practitioner, Human Design guide, as well as the founder of inBalance, a pilates based fitness franchise and the host of the Hopeful and Wholesome podcast. She helps female entrepreneurs heal chronic symptoms, create balance and ease within the body using a combination of functional and energy medicine. In this episode of The Health Fix Podcast, Dr. Jannine Krause interviews Hope Pedraza on how she’s incorporating quantum medicine into her retreats and work with clients.
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What You’ll Learn In This Episode:
- How knowing your human design shows where you’re predisposed to storing trauma in your body
- Why the throat, root center, sacral center & solar plexus chakra regions are common areas to have symptoms
- Releasing symptoms by tapping into the subconscious mind to find areas of stuck energy
- The connections between suppressed desires and pelvic floor symptoms of incontinence, low back pain, constipation and more
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Podcast Transcript
2:40 – Why Hope got into quantum healing
5:26 – The retreats
9:56 – People come for weight loss but get a balanced program that addresses other issues
20:38 – Feeling safe
24:36 – Sub conscious mind holding on to things
28:11 – Sub conscious mind causing restrictions
30:56 – Patterns with clients
34:00 – Root sacral center
37:00 – More info on Hope’s retreats – Human design
44:11 – Being an entrepreneur can be lonely
46:53 – Where to find more information on Hope and her retreats
[Intro] Welcome to The Health Fix Podcast where health junkies get their weekly fix of tips,
tools, and techniques to have limitless energy, sharp minds, and fit physics or life.
Hey, health junkies! On this episode of The Health Fix Podcast, I’m interviewing Hope Pedraza.
If that name sounds familiar, you’re correct. She’s been on the podcast before,
episodes 307 and 308. Now, hope is a functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner.
practitioner, she’s a certified holistic nutritionist, Reiki practitioner, human design guide, as
well as the founder of IN Balanced, a Pilates-based fitness franchise, and she’s also the host
of the Hopeful and Hulsome podcast. Hope helps female optopriners heal chronic symptoms,
create balance, and ease within the body using a combination of functional and energy
medicine so that these entrepreneurs can live a life of joy, fulfillment, and impact.
Now in this episode of the HealthFix podcast, hope and I are talking about quantum healing
and how she’s incorporating it into her retreats and work with clients.
Now you may be thinking, what’s quantum healing or quantum medicine?
Well it’s actually the art of healing your energy.
Now energy makes up every single part of you.
Because after all you are an energetic being full of more voltage than a lightning bolt.
Dr. Bruce Lipton and Joe Dispensa are the pioneers in quantum medicine.
So you might have heard of those guys, but there are a lot of folks like Hope Petraza and
myself spreading the word and bringing it to the masses that you can work on your energy.
This is that concept of stuff getting stuck in the body, trauma, etc.
Stuck in the body.
We’re going to talk about how you can access that and get rid of it today.
So let’s reintroduce you to Hope Petraza.
JANNINE: Hope, welcome back to the Health Fix podcast.
HOPE: Thank you, Jannine.
You know, I’m so excited to be here again.
JANNINE: Yeah, well, you know, I’ve been watching you on Instagram
and like soaking up all of your quantum information
and seeing all the retreats and going like,
we had to talk about this ’cause before we hit record,
I had told you that I’d surveyed my audience
and I said, What are you guys interested in?
And I asked if folks were interested
in quantum healing, quantum medicine.
about 75% folks hit that surveyed said, I don’t know what that is. So I’m like great,
perfect opportunity and I know hope can help me to explain it. So tell us, tell us how you got
into quantum first. Well, let’s go first what it is and then tell us how you got into it.
HOPE: Yeah, yeah. So just when we’re talking about quantum healing, we’re talking about healing on
every level. And that’s really kind of what my nutrition practice has evolved, where it’s,
you know, it started out just talking about nutrition, right? And it’s just talking about,
you know, years and years ago and it was, it was just like, basic nutrition coaching, right? So it was
like calories and macros and healthy choices and, you know, the basics. And then, you know, as I’m
working with clients, I’m recognizing like, okay, these, these things are coming to me. They’re
They’re talking about these, you know, they, they, they all came and we like,
Oh, I want to lose weight and I want it.
But really, when you get down to it, there’s like hormonal things and thyroid things and all these other things going on.
So I’m like, okay, there’s more to this, there’s more to the story here.
So that was me realizing, okay, we need to look at the gut and the hormones and the thyroid and the adrenals and all these other pieces.
Then as I’m working with clients and that capacity, and also just a kind of my own journey, I got this realization where I’m like,
Okay, that’s great.
Like there’s all these physical things going on in the body,
but I’m recognizing like first there’s this connection
with stress in our environment.
That’s causing physical things to happen in the body.
Well, then there’s this emotional piece
that has an effect on how our physical body is functioning.
And then through my own journey into human design,
I realized there’s this energetic piece.
Like there’s the energetic body
that is affecting how our physical body is functioning.
And so putting all of these puzzle pieces together
is how I got here to where we’re talking about
quantum healing is it’s literally every level.
It’s the energetic, spiritual, mental,
emotional, physical, it’s all things.
JANNINE: It sure is.
And I think it’s something that you come to realize, right?
After a point, you’re like, oh my gosh.
Where do we go from?
Like I just wanna lose weight to like all the other things.
‘Cause that’s how I see it in my practice too.
And I never wanted to be a weight loss specialist
and I’m not, you know?
And I would get frustrated because I’m like,
God, can we really just wait last
that’s all you want for yourself?
HOPE: I know, I know, right, right, exactly.
Exactly, and those are conversations that,
I realized I was getting frustrated with,
and I still have this conversation sometimes
where I’m like, first of all,
I’ve said that’s the only thing you wanna work on
that I’m not the practitioner for you.
And second of all, there’s nothing inherently wrong
with wanting to lose weight,
but there’s always a deeper why than just losing weight.
So can we get to that deeper why?
JANNINE: Absolutely, absolutely.
And that’s where I see quantum coming in.
So huge.
And also like getting to the deeper why
of like other chronic symptoms that may have contributed
to why the weight loss is a big need.
HOPE: Exactly, yeah, that’s exactly it.
JANNINE: Yeah.
So tell us a little bit about how you’ve been working
with folks, ’cause now you have these retreats.
And I love it because explaining quantum’s
one thing. And then being able to do it on a telehealth level is another, but retreats
seem to make so much more difference. I’ve heard so many people say over and over again,
meeting up just gave me that extra movement.
HOPE: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s
really the, I didn’t realize how much I wanted to do retreats until after I started doing
And like I obviously had the nudge wouldn’t have started, you know,
having that as a part of a business, but being in the energy of other people
and just having that one-to-one face face interaction, I know it sounds cliche,
but like it really does make such a difference.
And it makes such a difference in how you just being around other people’s energy
and just like the energy you’re picking up and the, the realizations and
So, the revalations you have about yourself, it just makes so much difference.
And so, yeah, it is one thing to do this virtually, because my practice is virtual.
We do these quantum healing sessions virtually.
But it really is like this next level piece when you’re able to be in the energy of other
people.
And I think too, there’s this piece of, like there’s a community piece obviously, because you’re
with other women, but I think I really think we underestimate just how much we thrive as
humans. We thrive off being around other people and having this like, like things to relate
to with other people, right? And again, I think on a conscious level, like we see it, we’re
like, yeah, yeah, that’s important. But there’s like this deeper thing here, there’s deeper
piece at play when we are designed to need other people. We are designed to have contact
with other people. Humans are not solitary creatures and we’re designed to be solitary creatures.
So this like and we do see this like with the effects that we during COVID and quarantine
and all that the effects that that had on people’s mental emotional health like we see it.
And I think it’s time for us to recognize that like I love trust me. I love the virtual world.
Like I’ve built my business in the virtual world.
It’s awesome.
But it’s just this next level of transformation,
this next level of relating and self growth
and personal growth personal development,
what happens when you’re in person in a container
like a retreat where there’s just so much space
for you to grow and evolve and learn from each other.
JANNINE: I agree.
I agree.
And I think there’s like that collective energy too.
HOPE: Mm-hmm.
JANNINE: That builds.
I’ve never been to a treat where I’ve left
and been like, wow, that sucked.
HOPE: Yeah, it’s totally.
JANNINE: It’s always something, right?
I always pick up something and I always feel
like super, super good on the collective energy.
Honestly, I did an email this morning
because I was geeking out on lightning
and realized that lightning can be like 300,000 volts, right?
But humans have like 3.5 trillion
if we multiply like the average amount of cells in our body.
And I was like, but if we all get together,
HOPE: Yeah, right. It’s so true. I mean, they’ve done studies about that. I don’t know if you,
if you look, if you read, Jota spends his work, but Jota spends his talks about this a lot. And like,
and there’s, there’s another, I’m trying to think of the other guy, another book I read, but it
talks about like what happens when people, like, root meditations and they measure the energy of
the room. And like, it really is a thing. And Jota spends his mentioned this stuff all the time
in his big events. Like, they’re measuring the energy of the room. And it’s scientifically
but prove it, like it really does change.
JANNINE: It’s so cool.
It’s so cool.
So, you know, it definitely leaves the space
for where group, you know, work is so important.
Now of course, I think a lot of folks might be thinking
right now like, hope, okay, so you mentioned
what quantum is, it’s kind of everything.
And now, you know, Jeanne’s kind of talking about energy
and those kind of things, explain to us a little bit
how we take that bridge from like,
I just want to lose weight.
Do hey, like how do you talk to people like,
hey, I see you just want to lose weight,
but I also see you got some thyroid stuff.
You get some blood sugar stuff.
You get some nutrient deficiencies.
Let’s try to work on that with what’s going on,
what we see, but also energetically.
How do you bridge that gap for people?
HOPE: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that’s a good question.
And so the way that I do it,
I kind of have a few pieces that fit there.
So I incorporate human design.
I don’t know if I’ve talked about human design
in your show before.
But okay, so I incorporate human design, right?
And for those listening who are unfamiliar,
human design is basically the intersection
of these ancient teachings like the shocker system,
and astrology, and the itching,
and the copilotry of life put together things
like quantum physics, and quantum mechanics,
and neuroscience, and all this stuff.
And it’s the energetic blueprint of your soul.
And so for me, it starts there
where I want people to have this basic understanding
of like at a DNA level, like who are you, right?
how does your energy function?
How do you interact with the world around you,
all that kind of stuff?
From there, we have a better idea of,
by looking at the human as an chart,
we have an idea of where certain patterns
are gonna show up in the body,
based on certain energy centers
and where your energy is distributed on your chart and all that.
So with that, that’s where I like to start connecting the dots
and connecting pieces, the puzzle pieces,
because I can see like, for example,
two of the most, I will say two of the most common for women,
coming to me are issues with the the sacral center and the solar
plexus. Our sacral center is associated with our reproductive
organs. And so when we’re out of alignment in the center, this
is going to show up as you know reproductive things and things
like intonetrius is PCOS fertility issues, sexual dysfunction,
like all these kind of things. Our solar plexus is our emotional
center and it’s associated with the various some different detox
organs. And so it’s affecting how your body’s detoxing. I just
an Instagram live about this the other day, how it’s affecting how your body’s detoxing.
So just two examples of how we can start connecting the physical body with the energetic
body.
And then we can dive in and look at, you know, on your human design chart, like what’s
the energy like in these centers?
Like where we out of alignment, what are some things we can do to kind of manage that?
Like where are the challenges, where are the strengths?
So we can start to work with your own energy to help you on an energetic level.
That’s in turn going to affect you on a physical level because, I mean, the truth is, all
The root cause of all physical chronic ailments,
it happens at an energetic level.
It’s at an emotional energetic level.
So it’s where is that stagnation, lockage,
in the body, in the energetic body,
that’s kind of halting that free-throat energy
and affecting the physical body?
JANNINE: Yeah, yeah, I think it’s so valuable
to take a moment and think about the fact that
all of our chronic ailments have a root
in the area that we have an energetic block.
Or, you know, Chinese medicine,
they teach us like acupuncture, put the needles where,
you know, the block is, or put the points, you know,
that are correlated with the block.
HOPE: Right.
JANNINE: And the crazy part is, this is where you’re gonna laugh,
we aren’t taught in Chinese medicine,
the human design part of things,
the quantum part of things, the energetic.
Like you have the energy on it,
it’s a different concept.
HOPE: Right, right.
JANNINE: And I don’t know if they do that
because they’re trying to make it so Western
that you lose it.
And so like literally you’re like,
you know, I’m, God, how many years out,
17 plus years out right now, from school, right?
And you’re at that point where you’re like,
did I miss, like did I miss that day?
HOPE: Right, right, right.
JANNINE: Did I miss that week?
Why am I just figuring it out now?
HOPE: Right.
Yes, yes, yeah.
It is, it’s a big piece.
I mean, and it’s, I really do think that the,
it’s one of the big pieces that we’re missing
in the whole like wellness equation,
we’re talking about like, we’re talking about quantum healing,
right?
It’s healing on every level.
I mean, it is putting these pieces together
with the physical and the energetic body
and you can think it’s woo all day long,
but when you really look at, I mean,
if you’re in there, there is science to back a lot of the set.
Now, there’s not a lot of science to back up human design,
but we’re looking together of the concepts,
the basic concepts of human design and energy and how energy works, then it does make sense.
And there’s the scientific stuff to back up some of it, like nutrient-nose and these
subatomic particles, like there’s some science around that. But I mean, you look at traditional
Chinese medicine teachers, right? The balance of yin and yang and the body starts with the
endocrine system. Like it starts with your hormones, and that’s really what we’re looking at.
We’re looking at these energy centers in the bodies. It’s like how are these the energy and these
centers affecting your hormones? How is the emotions, the energy that’s happening in these centers
affecting your hormones. It’s all affecting your physical body.
JANNINE: Ah, and here’s the thing, you know, even though there’s not a lot of research with human
design, we have a lot of research with the chakras. Totally.
And that lines up, you know, perfectly there. And even I would say at this point in the stage of my,
my, let’s say, practice or whatever you want to call it at this point, it’s, it seems like
we’ve forgotten a lot of the ancient teachings.
And when after shiny objects and one pills
and quick solutions, when ancient medicine showing us,
like, hey, this is the path.
Like–
HOPE: Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that’s it.
I mean, I totally agree.
And I think that’s why, like the work,
this whole like connecting the dots
and putting the puzzle together so intriguing to me,
because it’s like this, I mean, it really is the intersection of like East meets West,
right?
It’s like, okay, we can look at what’s going on in the physical body and, you know, we
can do the labs and look at your adrenals and, you know, all the things.
But then, yeah, it’s like, yeah, these traditional methods are teaching us, like our energy is
affecting everything, our emotions, our energy is affecting everything.
So it really is just putting that together.
JANNINE: It’s fun being a puzzle.
Put the puzzle together, right?
HOPE: I love the puzzles.
JANNINE: I enjoy it. I enjoy it so much more. You know, and down that line with the puzzles and kind of
putting things together, have you started to realize or notice as you’re putting puzzles together
that you can help like literally trace stuff back with folks and help them really unravel when
things started to get a little insight?
HOPE: Yeah, I mean, that’s all the more of the fun part to
to your rights.
So I use techniques like, you know,
we’ll do things like an LP or hypnosis
and emotional release and shots.
So we’ll do all these things, you know,
looking at like timeline,
travel type things, right?
To kind of figure out where things,
and that’s really, that’s really the fun part too,
because we can think back,
’cause a lot of times my clients will think back like,
oh, like, this is the part,
this is the point where the symptoms kind of started.
And sometimes they’re like, well, you know,
didn’t really seem like that big of a traumatic, you know, me ear quotes, traumatic thing, whatever.
But then when we get into the sessions, I call them quantum healing sessions, we get into the
sessions. It’s usually something totally different that that wasn’t even on their conscious level.
Well, that was the thing that calls it all to happen. I had a kind of a week’s ago. It was literally
this event that happened her 20 years ago. It was not even on, like we hadn’t even talked about any
just thing that just came up in our session and you know, she’s crying and she got her, she’s like,
I had no idea that was about to happen.
It really is an understanding.
For her, it was this shame and fear of abandonment
and all these emotions coming up that were contributing
to a lot of what was going on in her body.
Yeah, I think it is just…
It’s an interesting piece.
How much your subconscious mind, how much is back there?
When we allow ourselves this space to feel safe to let it out,
to let it out.
Then it’s like, oh, here’s all these things
that I’ve been hiding and causing this low key chaos
in the body.
Yeah.
JANNINE: You know, I think a lot of people think of like, OK,
so yes, or are subconscious mind is holding all these things.
And the concept of feeling safe, right?
This is a big one that I’ve been talking about sometimes
in podcasts, but also with a lot of my patients.
And I get the eyebrow like–
I’m like, I am safe.
I’ve got to move over my head.
You really are.
I don’t understand.
And it’s like, I’m not saying that you’re not safe right
at the moment, but does your brain know that?
So in your quantum sessions, let’s go through a session.
Like what are people doing in the session?
How are you getting to the point
where you can help them facilitate either a release
or awareness or something in that nature?
Like how do you pull the things out of the subjunctive?
HOPE: Yeah.
JANNINE: And then help them to realize it’s connected to feeling safe.
HOPE: Right, right.
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HOPE: So the first thing before I do sessions, I always
have a good idea or I kind of study their chart and kind of, one of the times I kind of move
into it a little bit, through their chart too, and I like pick out things that I feel like would be
important to kind of bring into the session. Jean Kees is another thing I bring in.
Jean Kees is at a conversation for another day, but it’s kind of like the
cut that she human designs a similar concept but a little bit different
nuances. So bringing these pieces in where I have an idea of their energetic
makeup like going into the session where I feel like patterns and stuff could
be hiding. And then in the sessions it’s it’s and that’s the thing and you
you hit the nail in the head. It’s like okay our you know we can think in our
head we feel safe, but our body doesn’t always feel safe to feel the things that need to be felt,
to be able to release the things that need to be released. Like you’ve heard the adage,
like feel it to heal it. Our body has to feel safe, enable an order for us to feel it to heal it.
And that’s really all it is. Like we’re looking at, you know, how do we release emotions and
trauma and all that. It’s just feeling it. It’s bringing attention to it because the problem is,
We’re kind of the, like the, the, the break of the chain is when we have an emotional event,
whether it’s big T little T trauma, that’s the first thing I want to say, your body doesn’t
know the difference. Bay T little T trauma doesn’t matter to the body. It’s just, it’s just trauma
to the body. And when we feel that it’s basically as halting that emotional process, where
physiologically there’s a process that happens with neurotransmitters and hormones and all these
things when you’re having an emotional reaction. And our body wants to complete that. But when it’s
traumatic where it’s it’s too much of a shock to the body. We halt that process and it just gets stuck
in the body, right? That’s what gets stuck in the energetic body. So we’re going into the session,
we’re just figuring out where those things have gotten stuck. And when we bring ourselves into,
so I use, you know, kind of hypnotic language and we kind of use hypnosis and to get them into a safe
space and kind of really tuning into their intuition or inner voice or inner, like whatever you want
to call it to kind of calm down the body. We bring ourselves into this safe space and they feel safe to feel that’s when things start to come up.
And really it’s just us communicating with the subconscious mind. That’s what the sessions about.
It’s us communicating with the subconscious mind and asking the subconscious mind like, Hey, what’s here that you’re ready to let go of?
And the thing is I know sometimes people get freaked out when you hear about hypnosis like, What if these crazy things come up? And then I’m, you know, I’m traumatized all over again.
Your sub-conscious mind is never going to release things.
It’s not ready to release.
Like, it’s never going to, if something is coming up,
it’s ready to be released.
And so it’s just us taking the space.
And I think that’s the big thing is for a lot of people,
it’s, you know, we’ve, we’re avoiding feeling the things, right?
And it’s just, it really is as simple.
I know it sounds just like I’m oversimplifying it,
but it really is as simple as just taking the space.
And so these sessions, a lot of times with quads,
This is the first time that they’ve,
maybe in a long time that they’ve sat still
and listened and tuned into their subconscious mind
because it’s been trying to tell you things,
but we’re too busy,
or we shut it off or we repress it, right?
So it’s just, again, just having that conversation
from the subconscious mind,
and it’s gonna tell you what’s ready to be released.
It’s about tuning into the body,
that’s the other piece, that’s a crucial piece,
it’s getting out of the head and into the body,
which is a hard thing for people.
And I think especially in the Western world,
we’re in such a mental,
you live in such a mental society.
Everything is mental, everything is analytical,
everything is real heady.
And we become so disconnected from our body,
which is why we carry so much in our bodies
that’s affecting our physical health, right?
So if we can shut the mind off, like quiet the mind,
we go into the subconscious,
that’s when we can feel into the body.
And that’s where like your subconscious mind
will kind of direct you.
And that’s what we go through in the sessions.
Like we’re finding literally where in your physical body
holding on to this. And I’ll tell you a quick story. I had a client the end of last year we had a
session together and she was very specific because I’m usually asking them and we’re asking
the sub-conscious mind like where in the body do you feel you know tightness pressure,
pain you know whatever the feeling is. And she very specifically said her left ovary
very specifically said my left ovary that’s where I feel it. So we kind of go through it and
we’re you know identifying it let’s give it a shape. What does it look like? And she’s saying you
you know, look, it’s a nail, like it’s a big sharp nail.
That’s what it looks like.
And so we sit with it, we kind of work through things
and what came up for her was shame.
That was the emotion that was attached to this thing
that we’ve identified in her body.
And so, you know, because she’s kind of crying through it,
we’re releasing it, we’re working through it.
I’m not kidding when I tell you two days later,
she sends me a text and says she’s in the hospital
because she had a cyst rupture,
and I can give you one guess where it was
and her left over.
I’m like, girlfriend, when I say we release something
like your body was like, Whaah!
So, like this stuff really works
and it literally gets stored in your physical body.
We just have to talk to the subconscious mind
on a cover word is and allow that probably,
like all it needed was her attention.
Like we just needed to go there and feel it
and then we released it.
JANNINE: That’s crazy.
HOPE: It’s crazy.
JANNINE: And, and like she ended up, I mean, unfortunately,
she ended up in the ER getting checked out.
I was like, but you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.
HOPE: That did, that’s it.
Yeah, that’s what told her.
I was like, I am so sorry I’m in pain, but oh my gosh,
this is like the biggest gift ever.
Just released something major.
So yeah.
JANNINE: And how is she doing now, now that she’s out of,
HOPE: Yeah, yeah, she’s good.
She had a couple more cysts after that.
And then now she’s like on her healing way,
she’s like feeling better in her body than ever.
She like made huge strides in her business.
I mean, it was just like, yeah, I was just like part of the path of things that needed to be let go of.
JANNINE: That’s cool. That’s cool.
Not cool to go the ER, but you know what?
I mean, I’ve had different situations in that case with patients where things of like that nature
have happened or like a bladder infection is rage.
And then, you know, you’re like, yeah, sorry.
Sorry, not sorry.
HOPE: Right. Right.
JANNINE: Because now it’s going to be a lot better, right?
And of course, it’s a hard part of trying to explain
the weirdness of the body, but it is what it is.
Now, in your own experience, I’m curious,
like, because when we first talked,
we were talking human design, of course,
you were working through energetics.
And of course, I see you doing Pilates a lot.
And that is your thing.
HOPE: Yes.
JANNINE: Pilates.
In the times I’ve done Pilates, which if I had a reformer,
I think I would do it a lot more.
The not for reformer Pilates, I don’t know,
I just, I can’t believe I did.
And I know you have the reformer.
So when you’re working with folks in Pilates
and doing a little bit more of motion,
bodywork kind of stuff.
And where I’m going with this is because a lot of folks,
I know that listen to spot Kessler Trainers fitness folks.
And I love to try to get that like,
what you feel when you move into different directions
can give you a lot of clues too.
So in your experience with going, you know,
working with folks or even in yourself with Pilates
and working on the reform,
have you found that some of the restrictions that people have
or pain that people have translate as well
to some stuff subconscious when you have–
HOPE: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I mean, there’s a whole world of, you know,
trauma-informed movement and on this, you know, topic
about how the body does, you know,
certain parts of the body holding tension
and certain parts of the body that, you know,
don’t wanna be touched and certain parts.
So yeah, I mean, I think that’s a huge piece of it.
And I definitely see clients that come in
and you know, it’s more along more
when you have private sessions
’cause you have one-on-one time to look at them
and have conversations about it.
But there’s definitely a crossover
and the thing is going on like tension tightness,
um, like restricted ranges of motion in certain areas of the body and things they’ve experienced
in life, right? And then learning about things they’ve experienced in life and how that’s affecting
how their physical body is working. So yeah, I think there’s a total crossover. And and again,
I mean, I think it, you know, it goes back to even whether you’re talking about the organs and the
glands or your tongue out the muscles and the bones, like, and that’s, I think the big thing to
there is I had a gallimap podcast we talked about this last week I think or
before talking about the fascia and how much the fascia how much energy and
emotion that kind of stuff the fascia holds it’s this you know web in the
body and that’s around the whole body so I think there’s a lot to that and
when you’re fascia there’s you know build up of scar tissue whatever it’s
that’s restricting your range of motion so I think there’s definitely something
there and how movement, like looking at how like patterns of movement, like gate, all that kind
of stuff and how that’s related to what’s being stored in the body for sure.
JANNINE: I like think I got into the I ended up where I am now let’s put it that way by by starting with
looking at the body and noticing all the restrictions and and and watching people walking going.
I wonder what’s happening.
HOPE: Yeah.
JANNINE: And being like,
that’s interesting.
And so in your experience, have you seen,
like, see someone comes in,
they’ve got like a different kind of gate.
Maybe their one foot goes out a little bit more
or maybe their one foot goes in a little bit more
and they didn’t have an injury.
Have you kind of looked at their human design
and been like, Ooh, there’s a sacral thing there.
Or like, Is there any patterns?
I guess when I’m going for his patterns,
I love patterns and seeing patterns.
Is there anything you could share with folks
who are listening that might be like,
Hmm, this is interesting, but I’m not sure if it fits for me.
Yeah, let’s talk about patterns in particular in women.
If you’ve seen any, every men of causal, 30 plus, any patterns you’ve seen that maybe might
resonate with someone.
HOPE: Yeah, yeah.
So, I don’t typically look at my clients in my studio, look at their human design typically.
So I wouldn’t say I wouldn’t know where to write off the bat, but I can definitely say
just for the clients I work with who where I do do their human design. There’s definitely
patterns and just hearing them talk about like what feels good to them as far as movement,
what doesn’t feel good to them as far as movement, what feels more like intuitive with them with
movement. That definitely shows up and there’s definitely patterns. I think the biggest pattern
that I’m with you, I’m all about the patterns. The biggest patterns for me really start with and
And I do think that there is something to be said.
And I should probably do like a study in my studio for this.
Now that you’re like putting ideas on my head now,
I should do a study of this because there’s a lot of people
with things like women with pelvic floor dysfunction
and that kind of stuff.
And that’s affecting how their body is moving
and how they’re able to move.
And those kind of things, that’s honor, percent related
to certain things in the body with the sickle center,
the root center, like those things.
So I could see there being some serious patterns with those.
And I think that I mentioned before the sickle center
and the solar plexus, but I really think for women,
the root center, the sacral and the solar plexus
are probably the top three, where I see patterns over
and over and over and over again,
showing up in the physical body.
And I will also say the throat center.
I feel like those are the ones that show up
the most often in women.
And I can 100% say that it would be affecting
how their body is physically moving through life,
that kind of thing, just from what’s going on
those particular energy centers.
JANNINE: Well, it makes sense.
I mean, gosh, I don’t know how many,
you know, maybe it’s my business and being the natural path
that maybe it’s cause a drawn to me to thyroid stuff for sure.
HOPE: Yes.
Yes.
JANNINE: Chest stuff like solar plexus.
I see a lot of breathing dysfunction, grief,
held in there too.
And like lots, now I don’t know if it’s since COVID,
it seems like it.
So many people like long stuff over and over and over again,
We can’t seem to get it out of there.
Oh, my goodness.
And then the sacral, like sacral root chakra.
I mean, this for women, this is, you know,
ladies are listening at, you know,
low back pain, sciatica, all the stuff.
I know since we’ve talked, I probably
can tell you, and this would be interesting
to see your take on this.
I found out, ’cause I was having some really bad sciatica,
and I over did it with some deadlifting.
Let’s be real.
And for history of that, and then I was carrying shingles up on my roof and doing, you know, just goofy stuff, right?
But I ended up with the L5S1 disc herniation, like completely blown out.
And the docs like, yeah, you know, really the only solution is surgery.
But if you can avoid that and strengthen things, you know, it would be better.
And I couldn’t help but think to myself, there’s got to be something energetic hear.
Gotta be something.
HOPE: Mm-hmm.
JANNINE: And so–
HOPE: Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I think what you said before,
I think the root sacral is like 100% connected
with that part of the body.
And I think there’s definitely something
to look at there with those two centers related there.
Well, and I think, you know, the root center,
and I mentioned before they say,
So I’ll say both of these.
So your root center is associated with right safety
and security and all that surrounds that.
that’s your root center.
Your psychro center is creativity and sexuality.
And it’s like your life force energy.
And it’s like where desire comes from in the psychro center.
So I think there’s a lot to that.
And again, especially with women,
and I have this, I have, well,
I have a handful of theories around things happening
in these centers.
But I feel like there’s something to be said
with women just thinking about the psychro center.
And there’s so many women with low back pain,
like there’s so many women with low back pain.
And I feel like there’s something to this.
And looking at, as the sickle center,
as the source of life forced creativity desire,
or how many of us as women push aside
and kind of suppress what we really desire, right?
Like how many of us just do,
we’re the good girl, we do what we think we should be doing,
or we follow society,
or whatever traditional roles we think we should be playing
rather than living out our true desires.
Like how much dysfunction is related to that
of us just suppressing and pushing a star
what we really desire to do in life
and how much of that is affecting our physical body
in terms of low back pain and all the other things.
I mean, come on.
JANNINE: It’s huge.
It’s huge.
It’s huge.
I can tell 100% when I’m doing what I wanna do,
like podcasting and doing that stuff,
my back doesn’t hurt.
(laughs)
HOPE: Right?
Right, totally.
JANNINE: It’s so funny.
I was looking really quick while you’re chatting.
See if I can find my human designer,
but I can’t at the moment.
But folks, we went through it before on a previous podcast.
So I’ll link to that.
HOPE: Yeah.
JANNINE: If you guys are curious and like trying to figure out
what is this about, but God, the low back pain,
the pelvic floor dysfunction, urinary incontinence,
I mean, so, so common, so common.
And I want women to just really hear those guys.
It’s common, there are solutions.
HOPE: Yeah, yeah.
JANNINE: You’ve heard that now.
HOPE: That’s it.
Yeah. There
are solutions. You don’t have to, you don’t have to live with it.
JANNINE: So speaking of that, let’s dive into your retreats a little bit because of course I saw
you’re doing that and that was my whole point for us like, Hey, hope let’s talk about
this. Because like we said at the beginning of the podcast, that collective energy really
does help and I see so many people come back from retreats and be like, Just fired
off and like just feeling so much better. So tell us a little bit about how you got into
the retreats and like what like do you do you like screen people before you pick who’s
going to go together do you work with people before before they can go to retreat like what’s
the scoop give us how it works
HOPE: Yeah yeah yeah so my retreats I do keep them small and
exclusive at least for now that’s how I want to do it just for for communities sake and
I want to be able to have you know the right group of people together and have so so the
The one I did a little over a month ago was it was small, it was intimate, it was exclusive,
and I wanted that because I wanted to have the time to do one-on-one sessions with everybody
while we were on our treat.
And so I have, you know, I have themes for all of them, and the theme for that one was
really just all about human design.
And I had people who were, you know, a little bit familiar with human design.
I had people who had no idea, like they didn’t, but we’re interested in learning at least,
you know.
So it was nice to have people kind of across the spectrum and we were able to really spend
the time what I’m wanting to talk about different aspects of their chart.
And we had a session where we talked about because I told them before I left.
And that’s sort of the reason I like to keep it small.
I set up kind of a group chat.
So we’re kind of chatting before we leave even we’re talking about things and I’m getting
input from them.
Like what are the big things you want to learn about?
We’re on this retreat.
Obviously I have my curriculum what I want to do, but what do you want to get out of it?
So we’re able to really curate this experience based on where everybody is in life and where
they are on their journey and what they want to gain from the experience.
And so one of the sessions was we went through their partners and spouses and kids human
design, be able to understand their family’s better.
And that was just this mind blowing thing for so many of them, like I’ve one of my members
saying like.
I have so much more like tenderness for my husband where these things like we’re driving
me bonkers and like oh like so it was just these conversations where we’re able to understand
each other better and our partners and our families better and so the whole the whole
point of the experience is to have just this immersive experience in these modalities
that that I teach that are all you know a lot of somatic practices and human design and
like all of these things putting it together
and it went on once and it, ’cause that’s everything too.
Like we did a lot of somatic work.
We did a lot of energetic work.
We did some like inner child stuff
as a group there at sessions.
We did some somatic work where we were releasing
had like some inter-ingee or emotional release sessions together.
And the women there created such a bond
and they didn’t know each other.
Like one of them brought a friend
but like they didn’t all know each other.
But we were able to, they felt comfortable,
openly sharing, you know, what came up for them in these sessions.
And it really does just like your trauma that collective energy.
I think that’s the other piece is it’s like, you go through these like
energetic experiences with each other and you’re able to like share in the
feelings and the things that come up.
And it’s just, it’s just a different experience knowing like,
I’m not alone in filling these things, right?
I think that’s a big piece of it.
And also learning from other people’s experiences and being able
to learn from the things they’ve been through.
And that’s another piece of the retreat is keeping it small.
We’re learning from each other.
And we’re feeling out each other’s energy.
And we’re doing it on this safe container
where we have room for our own growth and evolution.
JANNINE: It’s so huge to be able to share.
I think a lot of us, let’s put it this way.
When people are too close to you, right?
You’re really good friends or mom, you know, really like neighbors, whatever it may be.
It’s hard because you feel like, I can’t be, you know, but when you can go to a retreat,
I feel like it’s a different space, right?
And especially if it is meant specifically for holding space of this kind of thing for
a lot of women, that’s huge.
HOPE: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And I think the interesting thing about it is, and I wanted to make sure, like, in how
I was marketing your treat, I said this because for me, I’m an introvert.
Like honestly, I’d rather be by myself than with people any day.
Like, I like being alone and I, you know, being around a lot of people is exhausting for
me.
So, I, and I’m not the one to just like openly share things with people I don’t know.
And so I know, like, like listening to these people are like, I don’t want to share my
in our most things coming up with random people.
And you go into these experiences thinking like that,
but when you’re in the moment
and you’re experiencing these things together,
like something just shifts.
And the openness and the vulnerability
just like seeps out of you without even trying to.
And so I wanna say that too for people listening
who are like, that sounds awful.
I kinda wanna share these with people.
It just puts, you were in such a different
mindset in these sit scenarios and you’re in such a different energy. It really is the energy.
I mean, I know it keeps saying energy, but it really is the energy of the group that
allows this openness and vulnerability because again, like I said before, I really believe
as humans, like we’re meant to be open and honest and vulnerable with each other. And I think this
is like very contrary to Western society, Western world who is still not really acknowledging that
we as humans have emotions that are meant to be felt, right?
It’s, I think that it’s, it’s a, definitely a mindset shift
from just society and conditioning and all that
to openly share these kind of things with each other.
But I really do think that’s what we’re meant,
that’s what we’re here for.
I think we’re here to help each other with these things
and be able to be a vessel to carry, help other people
carry their stuff.
Like I just think that we’re all here to do it together
And this is the space to be able to do that.
JANNINE: That is well said, that is well said, um, gosh, you know, I do think that women in
particular, because I can’t speak for male energy, because I mean, yes, I have
some of that, but I am not a male. Um, but the point is, is I think women for
generations, I mean, if we look at ancient history and we look at different, you
know whether it’s pictographs or whether it is old like writings and whatnot.
There’s always like a women’s circle or a women’s group. And it seems like even if I went back to
like my mom’s group right at church back in 1980, whatever, right? Like they just hung out and
chatted and you know wasn’t all about you know religion. It was just everyone kind of supported
with each other. And I think we lost a lot of that with the pandemic, which kills me.
HOPE: Yep, 100%. I agree. And I think so many women are struggling and suffering in silence
from various things, like chronic disease, but also, again, just that like emotional
energetic stuff because of that. And not feeling like they have the safe space to open up and share
and bear their soul.
And it is, and especially,
like I had this conversation
about husband the other day,
and I have it often,
when you’re in the entrepreneur world too,
like being an entrepreneur is,
can be really lonely.
And I know I say that because he sometimes thinks,
like, why are you paying to be with this group
of people to talk about stuff?
Like, you have no idea.
Like, it is really lonely here,
especially when you’re a solopreneur,
and you know, you don’t have a big team
when you’re not meet, you know?
So it’s, I think we have lost a lot of that.
And I think it’s important for us to be able to intentionally
create this space for us to have those, you know,
using your quotes, women circles,
whatever that looks like for you.
It doesn’t make a formal women circle,
but to have those groups to be able to do that
and share and just be in each other’s energy
and help lift each other up.
JANNINE: Well, well said.
I mean, I think that’s kind of why somewhat do the podcast too, because it’s like it’s
to have lovely folks like you come on and chat and hopefully, you know, in the audio
of folks listening to this, they feel like they’re part of the crew too.
And that’s ultimately what I’d like to do because it just, it pains me to hear, you know,
like what you’re describing, you know, it pains me to hear women talk about not having
their crew, right?
right? You’re not being able to find their crew. And yes,
entrepreneurs, it is sometimes lonely. I agree. I agree. And even
if we are introverts, because I think a lot of people will say,
you know, if I’m an introvert, I’d rather be alone in a home.
Right. But still we still have.
Still it.
HOPE: That’s it. That’s it. Exactly. Exactly. And I have
come to realize that too. I think that’s been a big learning,
big learning thing for me with a past probably five or six years,
especially during COVID. Because for me, first COVID,
like this is a dream.
I don’t have to see people.
I don’t be around people.
Like I had missed like a baby.
I know it came to the hospital.
Like this is awesome.
But then you get to the point where you’re like,
oh, okay.
Now I see, like I do see that if we do need people.
It’s just, you know, there’s different like limitations
and boundaries I think with introverts,
but we still need people.
Like we’re still not meant to be by ourselves all the time.
So yeah.
JANNINE: Yeah.
We still need our crew.
HOPE: That’s it.
JANNINE: Man, well I am glad that you are contributing
to helping folks find their crew
and giving folks the outlet to be able to explore themselves
on such a profound level life changing, really.
And I’m excited for folks to hear more about your retreats
as they come up.
So let’s tell folks about where they can find you,
where they can get more information on when retreats
are coming up and all that good stuff.
HOPE: Yeah, yeah.
So you can follow me @thehopepodraza.
And then I also have an Instagram page
from her treats, it’s Whole Flin Whole Simmer treats.
And then you can check out my website,
www.hopefulandwholesome.com/retreats.
JANNINE: And you have a podcast.
I do, I have a podcast.
It’s called Hopeful and Wholesome as well.
So Hopeful and Wholesome all around.
You can find all the dates.
JANNINE: Yes, can, I mean, oh, good stuff.
And that’s of course where I Instagram, of course,
and then her podcast is fabulous.
Guys, she’s got a lot of great information.
And very similar message as me, but different information.
So I encourage you guys to check it out.
So hope, thank you so much for coming on.
I can’t appreciate it.
I mean, I can’t even express how much I appreciate you
coming back on.
HOPE: Thank you, Jannine.
Thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate the invite again.
JANNINE: Oh, I’m sure we’ll talk more in the future.
(laughs)
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