What if the symptoms you’ve been struggling with have a deeper root cause?

In this episode of The Health Fix Podcast, Dr. Jannine Krause sits down with Kim Rogers, aka “The Worm Queen,” to explore parasites, environmental toxins, mold exposure, detoxification, herbs, mushrooms, and the complex factors that can influence chronic health symptoms.

Kim spent more than 20 years working in Western medicine before her own health challenges, including endometriosis, Lyme disease, mold exposure and suspected parasite issues sent her searching for a different approach.

Her personal healing journey ultimately led her to co-found RogersHood Apothecary and create the ParaFy Parasite Cleanse Kit.

Kim shares what she learned about parasites, environmental exposures and the importance of understanding the body’s detoxification pathways. She also explains why she believes herbs work best as synergistic combinations, why supporting the immune system and detox pathways matters, and why becoming your own health advocate can be one of the most important steps in a healing journey.

We also dive into the controversy and questions surrounding parasite testing, water quality, mold, environmental toxins and the symptoms that can overlap with other chronic health conditions.

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What You’ll Learn In This Episode:

  • Kim Rogers’ journey from Western medicine to herbal medicine
  • What led Kim to investigate parasites and environmental toxins
  • Her experience with water contamination concerns in Washington State
  • Why parasite symptoms can overlap with many other chronic health issues
  • The importance and limitations of parasite testing
  • How mold, toxins and other environmental exposures may complicate chronic symptoms
  • The potential role of mushrooms and immune support
  • Why supporting the nervous system is important during a healing journey
  • How to approach detoxification gently rather than overwhelming the body

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Meet Kim Rogers — The “Worm Queen”

Kim Rogers is a wellness professional with more than 20 years of experience in Western medicine. She has contributed to medical publications, national allied health certification testing and medical advisory boards.

After experiencing her own health challenges, Kim began exploring natural and herbal approaches to wellness. Her experience ultimately inspired her to co-found RogersHood Apothecary in 2021.

She went viral on TikTok and Instagram after sharing her personal experience with parasites, which sparked a much larger conversation about parasite awareness, environmental exposures and chronic health symptoms.

Today, Kim is dedicated to helping people become better informed health advocates and understand the potential root causes contributing to their symptoms.

Dr. Jannine Krause 

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Podcast Transcript

Jannine Krause (00:01.124)
my gosh, guys, this is gonna be the best podcast ever because I get to talk about Washington with Kim Rogers, the worm queen. Also, I I’m gonna call you the mushroom queen too. Like both. Worm worm mushroom queen. Like both, because I I’m a big I I’m gonna be honest, I’m a big fan because a lot of my patients have used your products and they are like amazing and they’re feeling so good. And I think at the root of it, and this is why I always when I look at, well, what are you using? Who is this? Who’s this person? What is she up to? I saw how much.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (00:11.358)
Jannine Krause (00:30.764)
You are into the mixing and the alchemy of the herbs. How, how, like we we have to talk about how this all started because Hoodsport, getting sick, Seattle water, like we just talked about all those things, and my mind is so blown and we have to share this with people. Tell us how did this unfold for you in terms of getting sick with all the things?

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (00:34.668)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (00:53.176)
Well, thanks for having me and I can’t wait to share my knowledge with everyone listening. So funny enough, I didn’t know that you were located in the Washington area, really kind of close to where I first moved and bought a house and learned while we were remodeling it years later that it had mold and that contributed to my declining of my health.

So I come from Western medicine. I’ve been in it since 2004. I hold two healthcare degrees and I’ve ran an upwards of 25 healthcare colleges. I was a professor and I worked in the field in emergency, endocrine neurology. Those were my specialties. And then in 2019, after my health started to decline, I moved out to Hoodsport, Washington for my husband and I to build a log home and for us to say goodbye.

Me because my health was declining so rapidly with no answers. I also had 13 surgeries in a hysterectomy when I was 29 years old. And now I know that if I had cleansed and known about Lyme, mold, and parasites that were in my body, I probably would not have needed that hysterectomy. So I feel real strong about sharing this information about herbs and parasite cleansing with Parapy and my lymph kit because

All of these things have changed who I am in such a great way that I want humanity to also feel the same. It’s really important for us to understand all of these things. So we were talking about how I moved to Hoodsport, and that’s how Mrs. Rogers Hood came in, because my last name is Rogers, and I lived in Hoodsport, and we called it the Hood. So we would always say, Welcome to the Hood.

and my hood is worms, parasites, mold, lime, herbs, mushrooms, all the fun things that I think people need to know more about. so I moved out to our property to build the log home. And I actually started declining when we got out there. And we figured out years later, which we’ll go into how we figured it out, but we figured out years later it was actually worms in the water up there.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (03:03.874)
They’re they have a community well. And when we bought the land, they said, the well is like the best. It’s Artesian water. And they kind of do that up there in Seattle, Washington area. They think the water is so great because the mountain is right there. But I’ve tested their water and both places, Hoodsport and Seattle, came back positive for nematodes, which are physical worms.

Jannine Krause (03:15.904)
Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (03:26.382)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And and this is what I see in a lot of folks who are in the Seattle Tacoma area and they’re they’re they’re get they’re getting sicker. We’re giving them parasite cleanses, but they keep getting worms again and they keep getting worms again. And it’s like I just the I can’t believe the lies.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (03:42.831)
It’s a it’s insane. And when so I that was happening to me. This is what made me figure it out. So in July of twenty-one, when I went viral on TikTok, I had about a million people watch my video the first two hours that I posted it and I knew. I knew right there, I’m like, first off, this is crazy. Secondly, there’s so many people in the comments talking about this. This is a real thing.

And all my video was, I come from Western medicine. I’ve been in Western medicine for over 18 years, and I’ve never dewormed myself until now. Every time the full moon would happen, I would get really ill. Every time I would do anything that disrupted them, I would get sick. But I didn’t know what disruption meant. I didn’t know what any of this meant because Western medicine, it’s taboo, right? So

I started the cleanse and I started a cleanse. It was just some random tincture that I got on Amazon for like thirty bucks. And within three days of doing it, I saw roundworm flukes and pinworms. And this pain that I had had on my right side, that was an indication it was time to have surgery again, because I’d have every two years. But in two thousand nineteen my doctors said you can’t have any more kim. We’re actually creating so much scar tissue inside of your body, we’re creating harm.

And so they’re like, this is just how you have to live. Like, this is it. And I’m like, that’s not good enough for me. Like, I don’t want to live like this. And so after I saw that in the toilet, I immediately grabbed my phone and I started talking about it because it was such a validation to me that it wasn’t in my head, that it wasn’t just something that I was or wasn’t doing in my life, the stress or whatever, you know? And so

Jannine Krause (05:30.552)
Yeah.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (05:31.923)
I started going viral and I’ve done this actually every day. I’ve talked about this every day since July eighteenth of twenty twenty-one. I’ve never taken a day off.

Jannine Krause (05:40.184)
Wow, wow. I I give you credit for that. I give you credit for that. That is hard. That’s hard stuff. And for those of you that don’t do social media posts, like that’s that’s a lot of work. And that’s that’s a gallon of mission there. That is a gallon of mission. Yeah. And

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (05:45.164)
Yeah.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (05:52.057)
Yeah, I’m on a mission. Why can’t we have better testing, Doctor? Like, why? Why can’t we, as society, be able to have affordable, accurate, available testing like other countries, like Mexico? They can go and they can get tested. They can go to the pharmacy, seven bucks, go get an antiparasitic. They recommend doing that two to three times a year because they know their water is contaminated. Their head isn’t in the sand. They know that food.

Fish, salmon, pork, beef, that all has some sort of a parasite in it and so they know, like, why don’t we know?

Jannine Krause (06:33.664)
You know, I d I can’t answer that. Like I can’t answer that. And and of course I’m on the fringe because I’m a naturopath, right? And if we try to say things while you know, all those crazy naturopaths you know, and it and it sucks because the the truth is is I’m seeing people getting sicker and sicker. And you know, obviously there’s the we need drink your water and then

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (06:39.297)
You hear me?

Jannine Krause (06:53.612)
But but bottled water’s bad, but then I fil you like well, how do I filter it? What do I get rid of? What do I do? My question to you is, what are you doing right now for your water? How do you how do you keep it as like legit as possible? Are you doing using RO? What are you doing?

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (07:06.9)
In Hoodsport, yes. So where we live now, we’re in a rental. We live outside of Lake Tahoe. We’re we bought some land across the street from my parents. So but as soon as we realized the water was contaminated, I had Jeremy, my husband, actually get this reverse osmosis UV light setup that’s at that house now. So basically when it comes from

The we treat that water like bad well water on our property because it is bad well water for the community. And so it’s a UV light, it comes from the road, goes in through three filter systems that are five microns or smaller because parasites, heavy metals, pharmaceuticals, those are very small microns. And so you want to get filtration systems that are small enough to pull those out.

And then once the water goes through those filters, then it goes up to a UV light, killing every single thing that it possibly could have left in it. Then it comes into our house and another UV light, because we’re really that serious about not ever being contaminated with water again. Then it goes to drink, we do it with a reverse osmosis and then multiple filters. Total cost is around $1,000 for you to do it yourself. It used to be around $500.

But we sell so many of them because I talk about it all the time that they increase their prices. And so it’s super simple for you to do a whole house filtration system. But if you don’t have the capability of doing a whole house and you want to just do it like inside of like we’re in a rental. So underneath our sinks here in our rental, we’ve shut off the waters the hot water side in our sinks, except for the kitchen. So all of our bathrooms only have cold water.

Because then we have a filter that’s underneath that that the cold water comes out and we brush our teeth. I wash my face with it. I have a kangen so it comes up through that. Cause you should be filtering all of your water. And then our shower has a one micron filter on the shower head as well. We have tested the water where we’re at now in Lake Tahoe area and it’s tested negative for nematodes, parasites. it’s pretty clean water here.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (09:26.648)
But I’ve tested my water in Seattle. It tested positive for nematodes. I also have some videos where I show the shower head filter. It’s a clear house filter system and it’s black after five showers. So if you type in Worm Queen Seattle Shower Water, I’ll pop up on TikTok and you’ll see how disgusting it really is. I think they just stick the water hose for the whole city.

In the in the river there and then that’s how they pump it in. I think society thinks that they’re like cleaning all this water before it comes to you and really they’re just like, whatever. It’s water, you know. Like I really think that that’s cause I I never thought that. Like I’ve been allergic to chlorine, so I’ve always had a chlorine shower remover filter on

My showers, I traveled with one I worked for Delta. When I travel with my family, I’d always have filters at their house. So like really, I’ve always been a filter fanatic, but more now than I was before because I know what’s in our water now.

Jannine Krause (10:35.79)
My gosh, all I can think of, and I don’t know if you remember the Dewamish River. All I can think of is down down in there, they’ve got the hose coming out of the Dewamish and

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (10:43.8)
That’s what Jeremy said when he saw it. I mean, I’m talking like chunks of brown dirt. Like it’s the most you I can’t wait for everyone to go see it. It’s the most disgusting thing. I moved or I I traveled to New York because we had a billboard and it was only two showers in New York City for their black water filter. Ugh. Water is a way to get worms. And I just don’t think that people realize that you can absorb two cups of.

water every 15 minutes into your body and everything that’s in the water absorbs. So we’ve got issues with hormones because of the fact that they’re absorbing pharmaceuticals that the w the water is, you know, our water table has pharmaceuticals in it. And so it’s not necessarily all of the government’s fault, but like I think that they’ve led us to believe that, my gosh, the water is the best. And you guys, especially in Washington.

Jannine Krause (11:40.461)
Yeah. my goodness. I mean it just makes you sick. And and it’s gotten me to the point where, you know, I don’t wanna drink water when I’m there when I when I go to see patients. And so I end up like all these like spring waters, you know, from Italy. And I’m like, I don’t even know if these are clean. But I’m like, but I don’t want to touch the tap water, so I’m like, is it what’s your take on different like bottled

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (11:48.824)
Yeah.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (12:00.653)
Yeah.

Jannine Krause (12:05.272)
glass bottled waters like things like that. I mean, is it all fake? Is it all, you know, is is Mountain Spring, the the magical bottled water in Washington a joke? Are all of them a joke?

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (12:16.266)
No. I think I well, I s okay, so I’m a big water fanatic. And aphora water is the bougie water I drink. That’s like eight point five pH. It’s medical grade. You can take it through TSA, but it’s like fourteen dollars a bottle. So it’s not cheap water and you only have to really drink half of it to equal hydrating your cells like it would be for dead water. So dead water is the water that’s in the

Plastic and it’s not really hydrating you. It’s just kind of getting you by. If you’re going to seek out the best water, Icelandic is gonna be your number one in glass. If you can’t get glass, then get Icelandic and plastic. They’re gonna be better than anything else. Evian is a good brand that I really like. I think they rank at like 80 out of 100 for clean, maybe even higher than that, 85. I know Icelandic’s like 91. Voss just rolled in ro Voss.

they ranked very low for a while and they’ve improved their filtration system. Mountain Mountain Valley, they were ranked really low and now they’re ranked higher. Anytime you can get anything in glass is gonna be your best bet. Saratoga’s good. They rank with this Mountain Valley as well. I know Saratoga’s really big in the Washington area. So those two are really good if that’s all you can get. But

Jannine Krause (13:12.524)
Mm-hmm.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (13:36.023)
Those waters that are in glass are gonna rank higher as far as how good they are for your body and less contamination, environmental toxins inside of it. Then you get things like Desan Dasani. I mean, that’s just tap water or just reverse osmosis. Yeah. Yeah. They’re just like shh. I mean, you might as well go drink the contaminated worm water in Hoodsport at the same, you know, because you’re already like doing

Jannine Krause (13:49.454)
Pepsi or Coca-Cola.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (14:04.394)
Nothing for your body, really, when you’re drinking. So not to freak out though about water. It’s just really important for the knowledge and the understanding for people. And that’s why I created the cleanses that I created and why I went viral and why I created a company around this because I didn’t know myself that it was so detrimental to our health, the way that the water’s been treated here in the in the country.

Jannine Krause (14:34.19)
I mean, I think everyone’s heard about Flint, Michigan, right? And then, you know, people will be like, well that’s not us. We’re not Mich I mean, Michigan gets a bad rap. Like the Detroit area let’s just, you know, be real. But we think about Seattle and we think about like, you know, at least my Midwest brain.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (14:36.814)
Mm-hmm.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (14:41.656)
Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (14:48.3)
Because I grew up here in the Midwest, we’re like, they’re super hippie out there. They’re gonna be super clean on things. And so people would will trust. And and that’s just something we really need to to, you know, it doesn’t matter where you are. You need to be conscious. And and when you buy when someone buys a home or when someone, you know, right now might be thinking, like, okay, I need to test my water. Are you using like the online companies to test, or do you have a company? Do you use a specific water company? Cause I know not to use, you know, the municipal water testing.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (14:58.947)
Right.

Jannine Krause (15:17.742)
Besorg.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (15:17.826)
Yeah, they don’t test for parasites. So when all of this happened in twenty twenty-one, a zoologist came out to our property in Hoodsport and from Washington State to test our water. And they used the same sample that went to parasites.org, which is one company I like, and they tested positive with parasites.org. And zoologists came back and said, I don’t know what you’re talking about. This lady’s crazy. And so then, you know, I’m deemed as like,

The crazy worm lady, and I’m all no man, I’m the worm queen. Like if you’re going to get it in your mouth and say those things, I’m the worm queen. I’m not crazy. I literally have labs that went to Mexico that tested positive. So I’m trying to like help everyone around me in that area understand that they need filters. And instead, they all came back and they’re like, that she doesn’t know what she’s saying. And I’m like, cool, man. I’m good. I’m just gonna live my life. I mean, it was so

Crazy how much they denied, deny, deny. And it’s like, at some point, we have to just admit that this could be like at least get that out. It could be an issue. Like it could be a root cause. It was my root cause, one of them. And because I found out that I had round worm flukes and pinworms and cryptospritium parvium, which is parvo, which was shutting down my organs, which kills puppies. I had that.

From up in that area, by the way, it’s very prevalent. There’s actually signs all over that outskirts of that rainforest that say, Don’t let your dog drink the puddled water or the water out of this area because it has crypto sporidium parvium. And so when this all went down up there, everyone was talking to me and treating me like I was lying. And I’m like, yo, there’s a sign. There’s a sign my d my dog drank out of the puddle, gave me crypto.

My dad my dog also had round worm, gave it to me. I also got it from your water, and like everybody just acted as if this is never ever happened in the world. And I’m sitting there like, okay, this cannot this what twilight zone am I in here up here? Like it was it was really wild, but it really pushed me harder to do more videos, to educate more, to start a business.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (17:37.507)
Because it was such a denied situation and I was treated like I’ve never been in medicine before. And you know, twenty twenty was rough specifically up in Washington. And so around the world, but up in Washington, that epicenter, they created law the cause that’s where everything started and they created the laws. So people were really like, You that you’re lying, you’re lying. And I’m like, listen, I’m not lying. Like I have labs that show my husband and I are really sick from

all of these issues that have to do with all of the things I talk about today and people just don’t they just don’t understand up there or anywhere actually it is really an an issue with this topic of parasites and mold.

Jannine Krause (18:21.438)
It is, it is because there’s so many people that will be like, that’s not like don’t even go there with me. I mean, I’ve had neurologists, I’ve had every spat bas basically neurologists and endocrinologists basically say do not go see a naturopath because they should not be practicing because of the things they speak about. And it’s like, when are we gonna wake the F up here, people? Like when when? So with with all of this, like we we get to talk about the alchemy that you got going on though, because because

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (18:26.968)
Mm-hmm.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (18:42.68)
Yeah.

Jannine Krause (18:50.794)
So many people think of an anti parasitic like you had talked on, you know, ivermectin, fembendazole, you know, the the big ones that we talk about. Right.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (18:57.942)
synthetics. We call those synthetics because they’re big pharma. Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (19:03.106)
And they are, and they are, and they have one job. They do one thing. Whereas if we’re doing something with say a little wormwood, we’ve got a little bit of clove in there, we got a little garlic, we got, you know, name the herbs. This helps a little bit more synergy because we’re hitting in all the different ends. Talk a little bit about the the paraphy kit and what’s in there and and how you came up with the synergy on it. Because a lot of people will be like, I gotta take all that. Why can’t I just get ivermectin? Why can’t I just get bambendazol and cycle them?

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (19:33.465)
Well, because we’re like a Z pack. What’s really cool about talking with you is that I did a lot of mushrooms up in the rainforest when we were building our log home up there. And it kept downloading things to me about the herbs that were actually around me. Oregon grape root, not a lot of people know about how beautiful Oregon grape root is. It’s actually a small intestinal parasite, antiparasitic, and it also helps with inflammation. So it breaks down the inflammation that’s in your body, exposing them, but it

Jannine Krause (19:33.496)
Give us your sh.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (20:03.436)
came to me because it’s all around my property. No one else’s property, just my property. And then Usnia hangs from the trees there. And I started learning about what the environment was around me while I was very ill. And the environment kept talking to me. It kept the plants kept saying like, look into me, look at this. Like

You need to cleanse. You need to look around your environment and find things that are gonna help you. And so I started really looking because it’s Native American land up there. So I started really looking at like, well, what did they do? Like, what did our ancestors do? What do other countries do? Not just what do I’m doing right now, like with the wormwood and the black walnut hole and the clove, but what else can happen while you’re deworming? And as I was deworming, I was getting sick.

And it was because I wasn’t using the support herbs and I wasn’t binding, I actually ended up getting Epstein Barr virus, which was being held inside of one of the parasites that I released because they can hold six to eight times their weight in spores, heavy metals, different types of parasites, bacteria, and viruses. And I actually had been tested through my spinal fluid two times because I was being tested from MS, now knowing I had Lyme, which Lyme and MS are

The same in a lot of ways. They’re spare keet. They they latch onto the nervous system. They create terrible symptoms in your body. And so I had been tested for Epstein Bar virus to see if that’s something that was contributing to how sick I was for 20 years. And so I ended up testing again after I dewormed and I tested positive this time for Epstein Bar virus, not with an not with my spinal fluid, just with normal blood.

And so I know in those moments that way the way I was deworming with just some random dewormer on the internet was not enough. Like you have to go in and you have to break the biofilm. They live in a biofilm. It’s a house. And you have to burn their house down to expose them. And then you have to bring in herbs that help pluck out each one of them out.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (22:14.464)
So cilantro, heavy metal. You remove that heavy metal, it releases the parasite inside of that biofilm that’s been broken, and then they are like free floaters. So now you gotta come in and attack wormwood, Oregon grape root, usnia for viruses and bacteria. You got some candida up inside of their house that you have to remove. Then you have to go in and help with inflammation. I know it was a little uncomfortable for me to deworm, so I threw in some white willow bark to help with a little bit of pain.

There are three out of five people who have a tapeworm. So I brought in Hawthorneberry because Hawthornberry and tapeworms clash. But the thing that’s crazy about all of this is that they’re all a frequency. The herbs are a frequency, and the worms and the mold and the lime and these environmental toxins are also alive and a frequency in your body. And so when you bring something in that can actually like smash that frequency.

Like an opera singer singing and shattering the glass, her voice got to the same frequency as that glass and it shattered. So I started using the same concept. One that I learned in the field in Western medicine, and two, that concept of if I have a symptom and I have an ailment, what is going to help move it out? So you bring in those specific herbs to compound. And that’s the way you can think of.

What we’re doing here with these cleanses is compounding different herbs together to make a synergistic cleanse.

Jannine Krause (23:47.823)
So, so huge, so huge. And something that I think, you know, with herbs, that is herbal medicine. It is, you know, put compounding the fact, the synergy, the the all of that. And a lot of people are like, well, why is this one in there? Why is that one? Why is it not just one thing? And this is why not to do one thing. Now I want to speak about frequency for a minute, because one of the biggest things I see in chronic illness and and multiple complex infectious cases, as as I’ll look at them as, is it does lower your energetic frequency.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (24:05.134)
Yeah.

Jannine Krause (24:16.502)
And this is where I do see mushrooms coming in to kind of help save the day, along with the the mindset work, things of that nature. So tell us a little bit about how you’re kind of bringing both the worms and the mushrooms together for folks and weaving it.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (24:30.178)
The mushrooms for me, right, because they’re a fungus and so is mold, but they’re a this is the best way you can think about how certain herbs that are similarities as like mold fungus, mold fungus has its own frequency and it’s low. Mushrooms have a high frequency for healing, so they’re in a higher vibration. What happens when you t when you have something low frequency inside of your body already? You’re starting in the morning at a detriment.

Your body wants to heal. It wants to stay in homeostasis. And so when you have a detriment like mold parasites or lime in your body, it’s already starting in that negative. You’re then taking something to increase the math of the frequency and go upward. And so with mushrooms, specifically like let’s talk lion’s mane, right? Because lion’s mane has been shown to help rewire neurons that are misfiring in the brain.

And when I worked in neurology, I had no idea how powerful lion’s mane was. I would just tell people that had dementia and Alzheimer’s, why don’t you take some lion’s mane with your aerosep? Well, because what’s crazy about that is the DNA structure of a lot of medications that we take now that are synthetics that have been synthesized are similar DNA structures as the plant. You can’t patent a plant.

But you can definitely patent one different molecule inside of a synthetic that you can mass produce. So you can actually take those two things together and assist your mind to rewire the neuron that’s misfiring. And that’s really important to remember when you then bring in turkey tail, because turkey tail helps break down scar tissue. And when you have these chronic illnesses, you have things that are

Creating scar tissue. You have things that are going in and creating that low frequency. So you bring in those higher frequencies and boost your immune system. I mean, that’s really what it’s about is your immune system taking online and moving these things out. And unfortunately, the environments that we live in now, our immune systems are so compromised and our buckets are so overflowing. You don’t get that opportunity to actually

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (26:47.606)
Have your immune system stay online. And when you have evaders like this, like like Lyme, there’s a mirror that they actually hold in front of your immune system to trick your immune system to thinking it’s online and it’s healthy. And all the while it’s behind the mirror, creating chaos and havoc on your body. And your immune system has no idea what’s going on. You bring in herbs like what’s in the Parapy kit, it breaks that mirror down.

And then your immune system goes, my God, we’re under attack. And then it starts to come online. And then that’s when the die-offs happen when you’re cleansing and why people pause their cleanse. Not our cleanse, though. Our cleanse is very gentle. It’s a really, it really is a great cleanse from everything that I was learning in the woods and taking my classical training. It’s it is the best on the market.

Jannine Krause (27:43.129)
think it’s huge and and I think that’s why a lot of folks in my practice were gravitating towards it is because they were looking at okay this is gentle the herximer which is the detox reaction for when these things are blown apart right all of the endotoxins come out all of you know the things that they’ve been holding and and this is where binding you know is is incredibly important on on so many levels but one of the things you had mentioned is the mirror.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (28:02.67)
Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (28:08.158)
So many folks will tell me, like doc, I just don’t feel 100%, but my gut’s fine, so I can’t have parasites. I’m fine. I’m sleeping fine. Everything’s fine. But it’s not. And I’ll find this start to really come up in the perimenopause-menopause phase of life.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (28:13.443)
Mm-hmm.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (28:17.324)
Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (28:23.194)
so many women are really struggling. And you had said you had a hysterectomy at twenty-nine. I have a lot of people who, you know, in and you had been diagnosed with endometriosis, I have a lot of people who are talking about the estrobilome. they don’t necessarily know it’s called that, but for those of you who are listening, your estrogen and your bugs all kind of get together and do things in your gut. And endometriosis is part of it. But this whole perimenopause and amenopause transition, I know a lot of people are gravitating towards you because it seems like it amplifies.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (28:48.078)
Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (28:52.354)
And the worms seem to be tied into this and the mold and the lime. What have you learned from your personal experience?

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (28:58.882)
They are all tied together. They, you know, they absorb our nutrients, up to ninety percent of our nutrients, and they can come in and hijack the nervous system, which is needed. These these chemicals and these hormones that we have are needed for our bodies to work appropriately. And so when they’re eating your serotonin, which is what they do, they live off of collagen, they live off of serotonin, so they’re bringing your

hormones down and then your body’s trying to gear up and then it creates even more havoc. They they clog up your pathways. So your detox pathways are not able to get moved out. And I’m gonna say this so that everybody understands we have detox pathways. We want to keep those open. I say the three Ps peeing, pooping and perspiring. And one of the animals here in our earth

that do not have detox pathways are pigs. And that’s why we say don’t eat pork. Or if you do, make sure it’s cooked really well, because they only have one stomach and no detox pathways. And so what lives inside of them is constantly growing. And that’s why they get bigger and bigger and swollen is because they can’t detox. So if you think about one when you’re eating pork, that’s why a lot of people say don’t eat pork is because they’re full of tapeworm.

Parasites, roundworm. But if you think about the same concept with your body, if you’re not pushing things out of your body, which takes energy to do, and your detox pathways are clogged and you can’t get moving, peeing, pooping, and perspiring, then things are staying inside of you and they’re moving and working with the problem. Does that does that make sense to everybody? Or to you? Does that make sense?

Jannine Krause (30:49.656)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. my gosh. Yeah, the pork thing, the more I keep hearing I’m like, mm.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (30:58.434)
Just crisp up the bacon if you’re gonna eat it. You know, and same with like salmon and sushi and seafood. And I think we’ve just again back to the water thing. We just assumed that everything that’s around us has been tested and people really are looking into these things. And unfortunately, they’re just really not. You know, everyone’s just doing their day-to-day work and they don’t really understand that this is normal. This this is a normal thing in our world.

The worms can be in you for a reason. They’re decomposers, but when they start to overgrow and they get out of control, we’re not supposed to have them. They’re they’re really in your body doing something is how some people think of it. Like for me, they were eating scar tissue. They were living in it. They were wreaking havoc in it. And so I had a root that I needed to go in and clean up. I had a root cause of an issue that was happening that I needed to go and clean them up and get them out.

Jannine Krause (32:00.3)
I and and that’s the thing, right? Like it’s looking at what what is root cause. I mean, I I’ve debated as to how many root causes we may have, right? You know, but at the end of the day with with the parasites, I think it’s it’s incredibly in the worms and the you know, anything that can live in us overgrown, you know, even if it’s bacteria, you know, or or even if we’re looking at candida. Candida’s the candida.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (32:20.066)
Right. Candida. The yeast. it’s and we have k like we have an overgrowth of yeast in our body. Like we have yeast. And when it overgrows, because we eat sugar, we eat processed food and we don’t move a lot, it turns into a parasite. The definition of a parasite is anything that lives off a host or eats off a host. And and that’s a lot of things. Lyme feeds off the host.

Mold can feed off a host because it steals your energy and it colonizes inside of your body just like you see on the wall. It’s colonizing like that in your body. And it’s creating MCAS, which is mast cell activation. And that’s because your cells are full of toxins and fungus and you know, it’s trying it, they’re trying to make their way through your body and they’re getting stuck. And so it’s really a it’s really a better understanding for people.

That they can just grab like three tinctures and a binder and be like, okay, let’s just try this. This might not be your only root cause. For me, it was not. But it was my, it was my opening to understand that one, I had parasites. So in 21, I figured out I had parasites. In 22, I figured out one that I was living in mold in my travel trailer while building my log home. My eyes swelled shut and half of my hair fell out.

And then I had lived in mold while I was remodeling a house in the Tacoma area and had no idea. And then 23, I found out that I had undiagnosed Lyme since I was 12. Because my dad was a colonel in nuclear missiles. I had my medical records. I started researching my own medical so that I had a full understanding of what I was dealing with as I was moving through my health journey these last few years. I went back and I’d been bit by 10 ticks.

And my behavior changed from the age of 12 to the age of 13, and I became a totally different person. And now I know it’s because I had Lyme and it was undiagnosed. So parasites was not my only root cause, but it allowed me to peel the onion back of my health. And as I’ve done this journey, I’ve shared it with over a million 1.7 million followers now, is where we’re at with myself and my company. And so

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (34:35.978)
It allows you to understand that, okay, well, maybe worms are not my problem, but maybe Lyme is. And why did I get Lyme if I never got bit by a tick? Because you could have been exposed to mold and your body didn’t process it and they’re coming out showing that people that have mold also will test positive for Lyme. So there’s so many things that we don’t know as the general population about environmental toxins that we’re never speaking of because we’re stuck in this world of.

We’re first world country, this can’t happen to us. But unfortunately it is, it has, and we have to like wrap our heads around it and be our own patient advocates and have sovereignty over our own health.

Jannine Krause (35:20.416)
One one hundred percent. One hundred percent. You know, and and it’s the thing, it’s like I tell folks, no one’s coming to save you. I’m trying to help, but we we you gotta help me out and we’ve gotta take some ownership here over over what’s going on. So Kim, if if folks are wanting to like dive in and and really get started, where did they start?

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (35:26.477)
Mm-hmm.

Jannine Krause (35:40.906)
in in the process and and where would you like where would you tell like they go through parafied, then what do they do? Or you know, just how do you want folks to like how do you recommend folks not want, but how do you recommend folks look through and and consider where they start, how they do it, and go from

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (35:56.899)
I think that people that are nervous to do a parasite cleanse because they hear that word parasite. I started creating, I created another kit called the lymph kit. It’s three tinctures and a binder. It helps move your pathways, detoxing. It has lion’s mane and turkey tail. It has cat’s claw that helps repair DNA that’s been damaged by environmental toxins. It has holy basil in it to kind of calm your nervous system.

And it’s the same style protocol as it is with the Parapy kit so that you can get like an introduction to what the system that you should be doing every month looks like. And so I recommend starting with the lymph kit two weeks prior to doing the paraphy parasite cleanse so that you start opening up your pathways, getting your brain back online, because the lion’s mane is gonna help with brain health, allowing your body to reduce some of the inflammation so that you’re not

going into it swollen, constipated, and starving all the time because they do hijack our mind. Candida tells you to eat sugar. Toxoplasmosis tells you to do crazy, fearful things that you wouldn’t normally do, or go out and have sex with people that you normally wouldn’t because it’s rewired your brain. There’s so many things that parasites can do to your body. So I want to get that calmed down before you do a parasite cleanse.

So if you start the lymph kit two weeks prior to the parapy kit, then you continue taking lymph and holy skull tincture while on the parafy kit, it’s gonna make your cleanse so much better and so much easier. And you’re gonna be less scared. Because honestly, the words that we’ve never heard in our lives before scare people. It’s scary to people. And so I understand that. I understand that people have had bad cleanses before or better.

Bad parasite experiences. And so I don’t want people to not do this. I want people to understand and respect the herbs and understand that you can heal and you can move environmental toxins out of your body. So I say start with the lymph kit, do it two weeks prior to the parify kit, do the paraphy kit in conjunction with it, and then you can stay on the lymph kit.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (38:14.562)
Like sustain has a small amount of antiparasitic with Oregon Grape Root. So it’s gonna sustain you throughout your time until you do three to four heavy 30-day paraphy cleanses, you know, every 90 days. You start to really get in and once you start to feel good, it’s addictive. I the moment I mean I again, I’ve talked about this, done this every day because I love the way I feel now.

I don’t want to feel like that anymore. I don’t want to go back to when I was dying in the woods in 2019, trying to figure out what was wrong with me and my organs were shutting down. I don’t want to live like that anymore. So I’m willing to do what it takes to continue going forward, but it’s not an overnight thing. And I think people start on this journey and feel very overwhelmed. So I wanted to simplify it. We also have free resources. all of my ebooks are free, all of my knowledge is free.

I’ve done over 300 podcasts. I have my own podcast that I talk long form about all of this because it’s so important for people to have education and be their own advocate and go into their doctor like you and be armed with information so that they can talk on a level where you’re not feeling overwhelmed or gaslit. If you start to go to a doctor that gaslights you, leave. There are

thousands of doctors out there that will help you and have an understanding of what I’m saying. You’re one of them. You know, it it is really important for you as a human in your body that’s reconnecting your soul to your body, that when you lay down at night, you’re the only one there that’s helping you and that you can say at the end of the day, I did my best. I did everything I could for myself.

And I would repeat that to myself in the midst of me not being able to leave my trailer because I was so ill. I remember saying to myself, you know what, you didn’t get done today what you wanted to get done, but tomorrow is another day. And you did your best. You you got out of bed, you walked to your chair, you ate something, you had your husband help you with showering. You did your best, Kim. And that’s the best that I can ask for.

Jannine Krause (40:32.866)
Man. It just speaks to how how much these things can can take you down. And and especially the like you were saying, the voices that they have in each and every one of them. ‘Cause I’ve had patients that have said like something is telling them to kill themselves, something telling to just jump out of you know, i I mean, it’s just like, my God. And just incredible. Incredible. You’re doing

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (40:47.491)
Yes.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (40:54.914)
I start to feel that way and I take my kit just to just so everybody knows, when I have low self-worth or something’s going on with me, I just grab it. It’s my supplement that keeps me going because I still do have some small intestinal issues that will get, you know, get overgrown. And then I start to get in my head and it’s really difficult. So as soon as I start to feel that, like the soon as that intrusive thought comes on, I grab my kit. Because honestly, it’s not you.

It’s not you that is feeling that way. It is something inside of you. And I, okay, so I did a podcast in Austin on Tuesday. And the gal, it was a last minute podcast, and I’m so thankful I did it in person. And the girl had just got bit the month before with Lyme. And so she said the hardest part about having Lyme was the intrusive thoughts. And she said, I never before July, I never had an intrusive thought.

Jannine Krause (41:43.821)
Whoa.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (41:54.901)
I never felt unworthy of myself and I never got angry. And she said in the last month, she has been the most angry. She doesn’t like herself. And she said it came out of nowhere when I got bit. So it proves it literally. I was sitting there. I looked at her, I go, my God. Like that is the most strong. That’s the strongest thing I’ve ever heard because it is the hardest thing about having environmental toxins in your body. There’s a mold hold, there’s mold rage.

Parasites rewire your brain for low frequencies so that they survive because they are smarter than us. You got Lyme that has sparacheed, burrowed into our blood, our tissue, and our muscle, putting a biofilm around it, making their thoughts and their frequencies ours, thinking that that’s us. It is not you. It is not you. If we were able to actually get rid of some of these parasites inside of mentally

Health people like myself, I’m a totally different person. I reconnected with my family after seven years of no contact. If that isn’t a testament to what you can do for your own body, after seven years, I didn’t speak to my mom, my dad, or my sister. I I de I dewormed, I found out I had Lyme, I moved the mold out of my body, and I got myself back on track. And now I moved across the street from my parents. So just so

People can honestly hear ex exactly what this looks like for you. Like it it really is important for you to know it’s not you.

Jannine Krause (43:34.265)
That’s so huge because at this time in life a lot of people are questioning is it my hormones? Is it something, you know, is it my hormones? Is it something else? Am I losing my mind? What’s happening? And and this is a real deal thing that I see every single day where folks will come in and and I’ve it you know, I’ve seen people long enough in Tacoma that I can see the personality change and I’m like, what the heck just went on here? And and I’ll see flip like switches flip and it’s like, whoa, like they’ll email me, they’re usually really nice, and all of a sudden they’re like, you know, and you’re like,

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (44:02.978)
Yeah. The inflammation in the brain, the inflammation in the body. The body doesn’t know how else to respond. The only way it can is like it, you’re angry because it’s literally telling you something is wrong. I had a brain infection at the beginning of the year. I was very ill at the beginning of the year because a root that I had canal, root canaled, got missed for 15 years. I have four roots. They only did three roots.

Jannine Krause (44:04.43)
Hmm.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (44:30.87)
And so for 15 years I’ve had an infection going into my brain and it took it came to a head at the beginning of this year. And I was not myself. And I would say to everyone around me, there is something wrong with me, you guys. And I don’t know what it is yet, but I will find it. So you all have to just be really patient with me because no one was offering me an antibiotic. I figured it out on my own.

Just like we all really need to make sure we’re tapped into our own intuition. So when you know the flip of the switch happens, you grab your tools. Perify is your tool. The limp kit is a tool. It’s not gonna save you, but it is going to help heal you as a tool. So I that’s really what my message is when I when I’m out and about doing all of this.

Jannine Krause (45:23.15)
So huge. It’s so huge. I’m so glad that you’re out there. I’m so glad you shared your story because it’s really easy to be shut down quick when when someone who doesn’t understand all the different things that could go on with the body you know, just doesn’t see it and it’s like, Yeah, no, let’s you know, let’s give you some surline, you know, let’s give you antidepressant, let’s give you anti anxiety, you’ll be fine.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (45:42.722)
Yeah. Right.

Jannine Krause (45:47.17)
This is this is just so important. my gosh. I can’t wait to share this podcast with with my folks. Kim, I’m really excited. Plus, I’m so excited that there’s the Washington connection as well here. And we gotta we gotta save the folks in Washington from all the things. So you guys heard it first here. Now those for you in Wisconsin will come up with something else for you. Don’t worry. but for now, she’s on it for Washington and it sounds like probably Tahoe area as well. You’re on top of that.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (45:55.958)
Yeah.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (46:10.446)
Yeah, I’m working on everywhere.

Jannine Krause (46:12.334)
She’s g she’s going. So of course we can find you online. Let’s let’s talk the TikToks, the Instagrams, the all the all the different handles there so that folks can find you there. And then of course your podcast.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (46:23.672)
So you can find me on Mrs. Rogers Hood. That’s M-R-S-R-O-G-E-R-S-H-O-O-D on TikTok and all other platforms. On Instagram, it’s Mrs. Rogers dot hood. My podcast is what’s eating you with the letter U. My website is Rogershood.com and you can Google me Kim Rogers the Worm Queen and I’ll pop up everywhere.

Jannine Krause (46:47.406)
So, so glad that you are out there and and giving folks this great information. And and man, we’re gonna definitely blow this one up and and let everybody in the Pacific North last know what is up. Thank you again so much for coming on, Kim. I really appreciate it.

KIM ROGERS “THE WORM QUEEN” (47:02.223)
Thanks for having me.

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