Ep 512: Calm Your Money Nerves: Mastering Finances With Jenna Rose Finnie

Are you constantly playing catch-up with your finances? Does money stress drain your energy, leading to fatigue and a sense of being stuck in a cycle of fight-or-flight? Your nervous system’s response to stress can deeply impact your financial habits and decision-making. In this episode of The Health Fix Podcast, Dr. Jannine Krause sits down with finance coach Jenna Rose Finnie to discuss her tips for mastering the financial trifecta: cutting costs, understanding where your money is going, and how it’s growing. Tune in for insights on how to shift your mindset and gain control over your financial life.

Resources from the Show:

• Jenna Rose’s Website – fincoach.biz
• Dave Ramsey’s Debt Snowball Method
• Rocket Money (for expense tracking)
• Xero Finances Website (alternative to Quickbooks)

Tune in to learn how to calm your nervous system, take control of your finances, and create a more abundant mindset!

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Podcast Transcript

2:55 – How Jenna ended up in finance

7:01 – Debt snowball effect

10:01 – Clients gain confidence 

14:29 – Financial coaching around health care

16:32 – Where do you have clients start?

18:57 – Budgeting for fun

20:27 – Call different providers and ask for better deals to reduce expenses

28:28 – Focus on your own financial story

30:37 – Where to find Jenna online

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[Preview] At a certain point, there’s a crossover where you start to see doors open.

You’ve built up a little bit of flexibility or doing things you care about.

You’re on top of your finances and that just feels good.

Out of high school, you’re probably just going to start getting some credit cards.

And then it snowballs from there.

You know, you you rack up the credit card bills and then it’s some gargantuan

car loan or a mortgage and then it becomes like, OK, well, now I’m spending

two grand every single month just to keep on top of my debt payments.

And it’s like, if you could have that two grand every single month to do

something else, the possibilities that are open to you, it’s huge.

But Hey, health junkies on this episode, The Health Fix Podcast.

I’m interviewing Jenna Rose Finnie.

She is a financial coach and she happens to be my financial coach.

And, you know, we got to talking about what I was going through with my nervous

system and its relationship to my finances.

And what would happen when I would think about finances

and looking at bank accounts and things of that nature?

And I would almost go on freeze mode and avoidant mode.

I started thinking, there’s a connection to health

and finances.

And so I decided it was time to bring Jenna Rose on

so that she could share with you folks some tips and tricks

of how to help really ease the stress on the finances

and what she’s doing with folks by coaching them

and how she helped me to save over $1,000 a month

by just giving me some really easy tips

that they seem so easy,

but I wouldn’t have seen it without her guidance.

So if you’re constantly playing catch up with your finances

and you feel like maybe a lot of your thoughts

being taken up by your finances.

This episode is for you.

So let’s introduce you to Jenna Rose.

Welcome to the health fix podcast where health junkies get their weekly

fix of tips, tools and techniques to have limitless energy, sharp minds and fit

physiques or life.

JANNINE: Jenna Rose, Finnie, welcome to The Health Fix Podcast.

JENNA: Thank you for having me.

Oh my gosh, you guys, like I had to have Jenna Rose on

because of how much he changed my life

in such a short time.

And I was like, look,

finances, not something I talked about on the podcast much,

but I was like, I think it is such a huge impact

on your health that we need to talk about these things.

So Jenna, as we are gonna dive in deep today,

first and foremost, I love to tell stories

about how folks got into their profession.

So a financial coach or finances coach,

I don’t know which way you prefer me to say it,

but I’m just gonna say, how did you end up in this space?

JENNA: It was kind of a long, it’s kind of been a long path.

So I started, back in high school, I took financial literacy.

And when I got into the workforce later,

I learned that nobody else had that class.

So I found myself just kind of working with people,

like teaching people what a 401(k) was,

walking people through like just the financial statements

for the businesses we were working at, that kind of thing.

’cause I knew how to analyze that.

I knew what it was saying without freezing up.

So that was a step.

And then I eventually went into wealth management.

I was working in wealth management

for about seven years before I started this project.

And I found myself working with some clients

that really had a hard time even facing their bank account.

Like they didn’t wanna look at it.

They had never budgeted before.

And that wasn’t something that the financial advisors really did.

That wasn’t something they worked with.

So I kind of found myself doing that sort of on the side with some of the clients.

And I connected with a career coach a year ago.

And she was like, have you ever heard of financial coaching?

It’s like, no, just like you’re doing this all the time.

You can get paid to do this.

I was like, like, so I started to just shell the business.

So it took some classes.

I went through Dave Ramsey’s financial coach master training.

Just to get an idea like what does coaching really look like?

Is this really what I’m doing?

Is there a framework?

So I did that.

I talked to some people already in the field who have been successful and built this little

business about a year ago and it’s been great.

I really love it.

It’s probably the most rewarding job I’ve ever had.

JANNINE: Oh my goodness.

Well, you’ve definitely made an impact on my life.

And guys, I was introduced to Jenna from Selena Sue,

just as a bonus for signing up for Kate Northrop’s program.

And I love Kate, her program’s great.

What you and I have been working together,

so much more impactful because it’s the one on one

where we get to talk about what my issues were

with my finances.

So one of the big things that I’m sure you see

with a lot of your clients is anxiety.

Like you said, I don’t even want to look at my bank account

or people will tell me like, I’m not good with money.

And it’s not something like a doc really talks

with people about, but now that I’ve worked with you,

I’ve kind of like brought it up with people like

stress in your life, finances, anything going on.

And people, it’s impressive.

Like I thought I was alone in this world with my finance issues.

I didn’t want to tell anyone that it was like clueless.

So pretty common, huh?

JENNA: All the time.

And I think as people don’t talk about it,

People tend to think it’s worse than it really is.

And that weighs down on, I mean, that has a ripple effect, right?

Because it’s not just the finances at that point.

It’s the way you’re living your life

because you’re holding something in.

Like that’s not healthy.

That bleeds out in so many different ways.

The way you treat people, the way you treat yourself,

your own physical well-being at a certain point.

JANNINE: Oh my gosh.

Like one of the things I’m sure you see a lot with,

with a lot of folks who are in debt or struggling

with trying to make their ends meet,

They just keep trying, they’re skimping, right?

They’re trying to hold so much.

Like you said, holding in, but also like holding themselves

back from joy in life because they’re like,

I just had to do the stuff paid.

I just gotta get the stuff paid.

JENNA: Yeah. And I think it’s important to carve out a little bit

of money to do something fun,

do something that’s important for you.

It doesn’t have to just be a punishment.

You know, money’s not about money.

It’s about what you do with it, right?

So you want to obviously prioritize towards your,

the things you need, you know, your survival

and your financial health and the growth pattern.

But if you’re not at least living in the moment somewhat,

you’re going to feel like you’re punishing yourself

and that’s not good either.

JANNINE: I think that was one of the things really for me

that you were kind of highlighting

’cause of course, you know, full disclosure here folks,

I had some troubles with COVID

and my business going from three, four acupuncture visits

an hour down to one person an hour and then staff

and trying to finance everybody was tough.

And so I did accumulate a little bit of debt

and I was really embarrassed about that

but also trying to figure out

what do I do with this stuff?

How do I pay it?

And so yeah, my husband and I figured out how to live

on bare bones and not have very much fun.

And that was where you really taught me like,

hey, why don’t you think about paying the debt in different gradations and figure this out this

way where you have some money going for fun? 

JENNA: Yeah, the debt snowball strategy, that’s a big one.

I think there’s so many different financial influencers out there that say different things,

but at the end of the day, what is the most financially sound decision to pay off your debt

isn’t necessarily the most realistic as a human being. So being able to just step one sort your

debt from smallest to largest, pay off that smallest balance. And then once you have that

that first balance paid off, you have what you were paying on that as new flexibility.

You can put that whole amount towards the next debt. Sometimes what I like to do with

people is carve out a little portion of that and put that in like a slush fund, like do

something fun, but continue on the snowball path. And it’ll go away so much faster than

And if you try to do it in these huge chunks all at once, it’s just, that’s how I got

out of debt personally as well.

JANNINE: Yeah.

Yeah.

No, it’s definitely helping.

I’m definitely getting closer on one of my cards every month where we’re getting there.

And it feels good because you see the number going down.

And of course at the same time, you kind of panic a little bit because in your mind, you

know, we’ve got that programming like, I should be paying all these off.

I should be paying all these off right now.

And realistically, it’s hard when you have a lot to work with there.

JENNA: Yeah, I don’t think it makes sense to just prioritize debt.

And then you also have to factor in the savings piece too.

If you’re just continuously prioritizing debt, well, what happens when you need an ER visit

or your car breaks down or whatever $1,000 emergency that may be, you need to put some

money aside as well so that those doors are open and that’s going to make you feel a lot

better.

JANNINE: Oh my gosh.

Absolutely.

And I think a lot of people, you know, we’ve been at least my generation and you’re in

the same, you know, boat here, our generation of the 40 plus crew of the 35, let’s go 35

plus crew even.

I would say, you know, us folks have been taught, like, you know, pay your debts off.

Don’t don’t get in debt, you know, and then you scrimped to do whatever you can just to

get out of that mode and then it ends up really taking a toll of anxiety to look at your bills,

you know, anxiety to look at your, your bank accounts, things of that nature.

Have you found in working with folks that like you see a difference in their demeanor

in the timeframe that you’ve worked with them from paying that’s off slowly feeling more

confident in, in their finances?

JENNA: Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And it shows up differently for everybody, but at a certain point there’s a crossover

where you start to see doors open.

You’ve built up a little bit of flexibility or doing things you care about.

You’re on top of your finances and that just feels good.

So everybody’s different, but I’ll tell you I was just talking to a client the other

day and she was like, every time I talk to you, I feel like I can go and conquer the

world after.

So I need to talk to you and then go to my job interview.

JANNINE: Oh my God.

JENNA: It was fun.

But she had just had that crossover.

She had paid down a couple small debts, had a little bit of savings that was in a high

yield.

So it was growing a little bit.

And she’s like, I’ve got stuff in motion.

This is good.

And it just makes such a difference.

Everybody’s different.

JANNINE: Oh my gosh.

Well, the fact that you had a financial literacy class, I’m looking back at high school and

going, we never had anything like that.

My financial literacy was my parents were like, hey, we got you.

account, here’s how to balance a checkbook, which was great, right? And then came debit cards,

and then came credit cards. And then my system was just have enough money in your bank account,

and so if you screw up on the math, you got it covered, which is not the way to go. It’s not

the way to go. 

JENNA: Unfortunately, it’s the norm in our society, though. I think everybody at some

some point in their lives, accumulate some sort of debt.

It’s just, it’s so baked into our culture,

but it’s really hard to get away from that.

So yeah, if you didn’t have a financial literacy course

in high school, which I think everybody should,

but unfortunately that’s not the case right now,

then out of high school, you’re probably just gonna start

getting some credit cards.

And then it’s snowballs from there.

You know, you rack up the credit card bills

and then it’s some gargantuan car loan

a mortgage and then it becomes like, okay, well now I’m spending two grand every single

month just to keep on top of my debt payments. And it’s like, if you could have that two

grand every single month to do something else, the possibilities that are open to you, it’s

huge. But I don’t want people to beat themselves up for accumulating debt either because it

is unfortunately baked into our culture.

JANNINE: Yeah. You know, I think the shaming of debt is one of the things why I never really reached

without anyone trying to figure out, you know,

what to do, how to figure this out,

because like, oh my God, if my dad ever knew, like,

right?

Like, I got back to like 12 years old, you know?

Like, I’m gonna be grounded for months for this, you know?

And, you know, honestly, you and I talked about it,

I had never had any issues till COVID.

And so that was just so, so hard for me.

I was like, I had this down until I didn’t have it down

And it really kind of set me up for knowing that like, oh my gosh, I really need to prioritize

things better and really learn this and understand the flow of money.

Now, one of the things I will hear from clients a lot is like, yes, I’m stressed with finances and

yes, mortgages, car payments, things of that nature. Now it’s like, you we live in a society

where we’ve got high mortgage rates, we’ve got people who are living in where I practice

into Tacoma Washington, it is astronomical to have a home in a place that, yes, it’s beautiful,

but oh my gosh, if I went back now after selling my house, I couldn’t buy a house

there at this point. And so a lot of people are living a little, but house poorest, as a lot of

of people will say to me and they’ll be like, I can’t really afford supplements or I can’t

really afford a lot to take care of my health, which now we’ve got a big issue going on in

terms of needs.

And this is where something I’d love to hear your case in terms of like you said, the health

fund, the slush fund or even like prioritizing for healthcare needs that maybe an FSA if

they have something like that, like a health savings account or something like that.

How do you coach folks on saving for health care kind of needs or things that are of interest

for health?

JENNA: I think, and I know this answer gets old, but every single person is different.

Right.

So I think the first question is, like, let’s just say they don’t have any savings.

Right.

You know, what does an ER visit look like in your area?

Let’s at least make sure you can cover that.

Um, because a full emergency fund for the average person, you’re talking three to six

months of living expenses that’s going to be typically around $30,000. That seems like

a big bite. So I like to do it in chunks. Let’s cover any R visit. Let’s cover what else do

you need in your life for some people going to the gym every day makes a huge difference.

So carve out from your surplus and your income to cover the gym. If it’s… And then getting

into groceries, you know, get organic food. Let’s talk through budgeting around eating

well. It’s absolutely something you can do. So I think it’s just combing through the

needs and then setting aside that money in small chunks. And then going into getting

into it like we had just talked about buying a house and stuff, I think I would probably

try to encourage someone to hold on buying a house until they have these buckets set up.

You know, that door is open to take care of your health.

You have that, that fund set aside already.

You’ve got your debt, your credit card debt paid off so that you can just go into

this house and not have to sacrifice any of those things.

JANNINE: Yeah, that’s, I mean, it’s hugely important.

And I think for a lot of people and like me too, we, you and I sat down and we created a plan, right?

we could recreate it like the needs.

And Kate Northrop also had like the wants and needs thing.

And so you and I kind of went off of that

and we were like, okay, what’s realistic?

And I think for a lot of people listening,

they might be thinking like,

where do I even start?

Is this where most people would start

or where do you have folks start?

JENNA: So typically I just start talking about finances

and like their history with money

as a starting point, especially for that person

that doesn’t want to look at their bank account.

Like let’s just have a conversation.

Let’s talk about your history with money.

What are your earliest money memories fast forward

to first paycheck maybe?

And what were the first steps you did with that?

Okay, let’s fast forward to today.

What are your first steps when you receive money

and just identify some habits?

And I use money habitudes as well.

I really love their assessment.

So that opens a door of just conversation.

You can get a lot out of that.

What their natural relationship with money is,

what they might need to be saving for,

where their priorities really lie,

what their core values are.

And then from there, okay,

well, we’ve already talked about money a little bit.

Let’s just take that first step in building a plan.

And for me in my process, that’s a needs analysis.

So what is mandatory in your life?

Probably rent or a mortgage, healthcare,

costs of course, groceries, utilities,

probably the internet.

What is the bare bones you cannot live

without these things?

Okay, what’s left over from your income at that point?

And then let’s sort out,

and these are all in totally different sessions

so that we’re not doing everything all at once.

We’re not trying to burn anybody out,

but we get into that second session

where we’re prioritizing the discretionary spending.

Okay, what is something that you really like to do

all the time?

Well, for some people it’s going out to dinner once a week.

For some people it’s going to a concert once a month.

You know, everybody’s got different stuff.

So we prioritize those things.

And then you have this really nice, out of glance view.

Okay, if I need to cut costs,

it’s these bottom things that go first.

So your values are met.

And then we have to find some surplus

after that point and allocate towards saving schools,

paying down debt, all those things.

And if you comb through it one step at a time,

it feels a lot easier.

JANNINE: Absolutely, absolutely.

You know, one of the things you were saying

when you’re kind of going through it,

and I know I kind of alluded to it earlier,

is budgeting for your fun and things you do enjoy

because that way it’s built into your plan

versus like whimsical, like,

“Hey, we just did this and oh crap, I didn’t budget for it.”

And I think that health-wise, once,

it was almost like you gave me permission.

You know, when we were talking like you gave me permission

and be like, “Hey, why don’t you live your life

“a little bit instead of not spending on anything

“that you enjoy?”

And I think for a lot of people, that’s eye-opening

because when we think, “Oh, I’m on going on a budget,”

we think like, “Fun’s over.”

You know, it’s almost like being grounded financially.

JENNA: Yeah, and I’ve even tried to, I’m not 100% there yet, but I’m trying to even take the

word budget out of my vocabulary with clients because that has become a term of just this

feels punishing and restrictive and horrible.

But it’s so I’ve kind of been shifting towards let’s build a plan to make a spending plan.

Let’s see what doors are open for you.

Let’s have some fun with this.

Let’s be creative and finance has absolutely become a creative outlet for me.

And I try to pass that on to my clients.

JANNINE: Oh my gosh. Yeah. You like did a whole deep dive into all the different areas where I

could save money and like instantly saved me. Like when I added up, it’s almost like $1,000

a month in my business just in terms of things. Yeah. Of like random things and even more guys,

she kind of had me thinking about like, how could I call people and find different plans

and different things and I ended up with my electronic health record system. I ended up

calling them and saying, Hey, I’m spending this on a flex plan based on how many invoices

we send out, et cetera, et cetera.

And I’m on the lower end for a low volume.

Do you have a low volume plan?

And they were like, yeah.

And so I’m saving now almost $100 just there alone too in addition to other things.

And so it you inspired me to think differently about all of the different programs and then

consolidating too, because we had talked about my email program and things too.

So guys, I know that this doesn’t really to everybody, but I want you to be thinking about

like, how can you consolidate things or find a better deal or like I called Verizon?

Because that was one of my biggest money spends on different phones.

And they were like, Oh, well, we can do this kind of a plan and that saves you this.

And it’s like, they’re not going to call you and tell you they got it.

JENNA: Yeah, you’re not.

I checked.

They won’t.

I’ll tell you some of the best, probably the best advice I’ve ever received.

I was getting my first ever retail management job in the boss at my last job said, “Ask

questions.

Question everything.

Don’t just ride things out and expect things to work out.

You should always ask questions.”

And that stuck with me.

Like I know she just meant it in a retail management context, but that has bled into

everything related to finance.

people with high credit card interest, just call the credit card company.

Is there anything else they can do?

Worst case, you’re in the same boat you’re in.

Just ask.

Just ask the question.

And when you’re, you know, I work with a lot of small business owners, well, let’s

take a look at the tech stack.

What else is out there?

Is there a way to consolidate?

Is there a free version of X, Y, or Z?

And that really just made my heart jump for joy when you said you’re saving about a thousand

a month.

That’s crazy.

JANNINE: Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you don’t think about it because you’re like, I need the email company to send, how

about send out the emails?

I need this to consol- to send my courses out.

I need this.

And the next thing you know, when you put it all together, you’re like, oh, there’s programs

I can use to consolidate all of this and make it cheaper.

When you don’t think about it because you’re blind to it when you’re in your own world,

right?

Like you’re doing your things, you need someone to look outside.

It’s kind of, it’s why I invest in coaches because it helps me to think outside of the

box.

JENNA: Yeah.

And I think it’s also really important to reflect on how you learn.

You know, like for, what’s one of the first questions I ask people is how do you learn

and I try my best to cater to everybody.

But for everybody who is a hands-on learner, work with a coach.

It is going to make such a difference to have somebody just to be an accountability buddy.

Someone to kind of hold your hand through processes, share ideas that maybe you hadn’t

thought of.

I think that’s huge.

And it’s very hard to get that from reading a book or attending a webinar because it’s

not specific to you.

JANNINE: Yeah.

That’s I mean, that’s what we found with the Dave Ramsey stuff. I mean, it was like our relatives were talking about it

We’re like what my brother-in-law and they were like, oh, okay, you know, but I

Watched some of this stuff learned some things, but yeah, just working with you is so much better because I could understand like this is

Why I want to look at this this is why I want to tweak this this is why I want to be thinking about this

It’s just another eyes where you know a lot of us. I think it lost in the reason freeze and just do nothing

JENNA: Yeah, and that’s a very real thing. I went to a couple courses with the financial therapy

association. That was something they talked about a lot was that freeze response and how

trauma looks different for everybody. Like it doesn’t have to be a violent episode. For

some people it is just dealing with their finances and they get to a point where they

freeze up as if they’re accounting a bearing woods.

JANNINE: Right, right. And I think I definitely would say that out of all of the places where my

nervous system shows up, it was around money quite a bit. And, you know, we talk a lot about

cortisol in the health space. We talk about a lot about fight or flight response in Vegas

nervous response, but I have found that for a lot of people, yeah, the like freeze, avoid,

you know, run away, like, full effect. 

JENNA: Absolutely. It can be tough for a lot of people. And the

thing is, is it’s really like an abscess tooth, right? If you don’t deal with it, it’s going to grow

and grow and grow and get so much worse. If it is a bad situation, say it’s dead or maybe

it’s reaching a point where it’s defaulting and going to a collections agency. And when

you get to that point, it’s a really easy fix to just call, just make the phone call

and start asking questions. But so many people won’t do that. And then it just bleeds out,

bleeds out, bleeds out.

JANNINE: Well, I mean, I can totally understand, right?

‘Cause there’s so much shame involved in getting yourself

into a pickle with money.

And there’s also just that stigma, et cetera.

But at the same time, you have a great solution.

Just ask, I mean, same with health, right?

Ask questions, ask questions, keep asking questions.

And you know, you guys, she had me asking questions

even to my creditors and credit card companies

and asking like, like she said,

can you get a better rate?

And what ended up happening is I ended up being able to downgrade my credit cards to a zero fee,

like zero annual fee.

They wouldn’t let me get a decreased percent injury, which sucks.

But whatever, I was able to at least like knock out the annual fee and downgrade my, my,

my points or whatever I was getting from hotels or credit.

But what’s the way I think it right?

I know I was like, well, that’s better than nothing.

I will totally take that.

So it’s one of those things where you never know,

you know, you have options.

It’s just a matter of asking.

And this is where some of the things

that I really see with the nervous system and health,

how much of this is intersecting in terms of people’s

outward health.

If we’re freezing with the finances, we’re freezing

and nervous system is going nuts.

And we don’t feel like we have a handle on it.

I feel like we do tend to, once we get a handle on things,

do tonne of field batter.

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JENNA: Are you managing your money because it’s going to do the things that you personally want

it to do for you?

Or are you trying to keep up with those around you?

And I think that’s something that happens way too often,

even though we don’t really talk about finance,

people see the things that other people are buying.

Maybe it’s a nice car, nice clothes, or whatever,

or they just got the house of their dreams.

You don’t know what kind of debt that person’s accumulating.

And you don’t know what that person means.

I mean, do you want the big fancy house in the nice car?

Is that really going to bring you joy?

Or is it the ability to go to a concert once in a while

or go out to dinner once a week,

or whatever that fun thing is for you?

Everybody is different.

Everybody has their own financial story.

And I think it’s really important to reflect on

who you are, what your values are,

and make your own story that’s true to you.

JANNINE: Such wise advice, I think that is very common

for a lot of people.

I don’t necessarily fall into that,

But you think about it, right?

‘Cause you’ll see someone that’s got like a brand new car

and they’ll check it out, it’s got like this new car.

And you know, I’m sitting here like,

I love my 2007 FJ Cruiser.

I love that so much.

Like I wouldn’t want any,

like I don’t want a new car, right?

And so you think about it and you’re like,

but I guess I should have one ’cause everyone else does.

But at the same time, you know,

I know financially like not a good idea for me.

But at the same time, I think a lot of people will think

just like that thought in the back of their head,

even though it’s not like a heck yes,

I need this kind of thing.

I think a lot of people do that.

Same thing with probably clothes and purses

and God knows what else.

I don’t know.

JENNA: Everybody’s got their vices,

but it’s important to just be you.

JANNINE: Yeah, so huge, so huge.

Jenna Rose, let’s tell folks where they can find you

and how they can learn more about you and work with you.

‘Cause I think at this point,

we’ve given them so many ways that they can help.

just have their nervous system be more calm when it comes to finances and really help

guys in the long run with your fight or flight nervous system response. So give them your

website where they can find you, how they can work with you.

JENNA: So my website actually just launched last week, it’s fincoge.biz, F-I-N-C-O-A-A-C-H.biz.

And you can go anybody can go on their book a free consultation my calendar is posted.

JANNINE: Nice, nice. And then from there, you’ve got packages, you’ve got all kinds of different-

options for folks too, correct?

JENNA: Yeah, I mean, for the most part, I shape the plan to everybody individually. So I tend

to do my pricing and bundle packages, and then we can shape it however the person needs

from there.

JANNINE: Perfect. And then of course, guys, she gives so much education and dives in. You get a

a good email, like where should you spend a couple days looking at your stuff and going

like this the way you can do this and in like, oh, so much value.

I can’t recommend you enough, Jenna, as you’ve really changed my life and helped me

to have less stress.

You’ve saved me money.

You’ve saved me from freaking out about finances and really honestly, out of everything, you’ve

really taught me how to look at money as a, as a low, right?

And how to just bring it in, put it to places and give it a job.

And that’s at the end of the day, soothes my nervous system because I’m like, it just

has a job.

That’s all it is.

Doesn’t mean anything.

It has a job.

Perfect.

JENNA: Your money’s working for you.

And I think that’s the best outcome I could ask for.

JANNINE: That’s so awesome.

Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and sharing your tips.

And I know in the future, as we work together, I’ll probably have you back on some of the

other weird things that we deal with in terms of me and my financial stuff so that we can

share with folks, you know, what other things might come up in terms of your nervous system

and finances and how to really work through them.

JENNA: Absolutely. And thank you so much for having me. I’d love to come back anytime.

JANNINE: My pleasure. All right. Thank you.

Thank you.

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