Ep 505: The Epidemic of Building-Related Illness: Understanding the Impact of Our Environments on Health with Seth Jones

In this eye-opening episode, we dive into the growing epidemic of Building-Related Illness (BRI) and how modern building practices are contributing to a hidden health crisis. Our guest, Seth Jones, CEO of Hygia Living Corp. and creator of Superstratum, shares his personal journey from a successful international music career to the founding of a company focused on healing homes and improving health.

Seth reveals surprising insights into how the environments we live in play a direct role in our physical and mental well-being. From the effects of mold and mycotoxins on our health to the unseen ways they influence our energy and mental states, this episode will change the way you think about the spaces you occupy.

Key Takeaway:
Our environments are the primary contributors to our overall health, affecting us in ways we never imagined. By understanding and addressing Building-Related Illness, we can transform our homes from toxic spaces to healing environments.

Guest Bio:
Seth Jones is the CEO of Hygia Living Corp., where he and his team developed Superstratum, the first patent-pending process to remove mycotoxins from homes. His work has focused on understanding the hidden causes of Building-Related Illness (BRI) and developing products and solutions to address these issues. Before founding Hygia Living, Seth spent 15 years as an international songwriter, producer, and DJ. However, a personal experience with BRI changed everything, leading to the creation of Superstratum.

Now, Seth and Hygia Living are on a mission to heal the estimated 66 million homes in the U.S. that create toxic conditions leading to BRI. With 170 million people currently living in these homes, the Hygia Living mission to heal our homes has never been more important. Seth believes that our health can only rise to the level of our environment and that a pure, toxin-free environment is essential for the healing of the body, mind, and soul.

Featured Products & Resources:

• Superstratum Mold Solution: Revolutionary technology to eliminate mold and neutralize mycotoxins
  Learn More: superstratum.co
• Hygia Life Resources for Health:
  Visit: hygia.life/healthfix
• Khaos Air Purifier: Powerful multicluster air ionization that neutralizes particles and improves indoor air quality
  Purchase: khaosair.com/products/khaos-air-purifier

Connect with Seth Jones:
Website: hygia.life
LinkedIn: Seth Jones
Instagram: @hygia_life

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• Learn about Building-Related Illness and solutions: hygia.life/healthfix
• Dive into Seth’s groundbreaking Superstratum system: superstratum.co
• Explore the Khaos Air Purifier: khaosair.com/products/khaos-air-purifier

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Podcast Transcript

4:42 – Seth’s backstory

11:13 – Mystery illness

19:22 – Everything is energy 

22:02 – Dreams about demons or ghosts trying to kill you

23:25 – Mold remediation and mycotoxins

 31:41 – Seth’s process for removing mold from a home

35:21 – Consumer product to remediate mold

44:01 – Mold product for cars

45:27 – Long term mold product and other uses

52:54 – How to get in touch with Seth 

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[Preview] Mold and toxins affect the morphogenetic field.

They will change the morphogenetic field of your DNA.

So mold is actually not our greatest enemy

in terms of microorganisms.

It’s actually bacteria.

Bacteria is much more dangerous to humans.

However, mold mycotoxins are the nuclear weapons,

so to speak, right?

They’re very powerful.

So what has happened is we have created airtight buildings

and this started in the 70s, 80s,

especially the 90s, right? After the energy crisis and we built energy efficient tight

buildings, that’s wonderful for keeping our energy costs down. However, there was a hidden cost.

When we trapped air inside of our buildings, we didn’t understand the consequences of what

happened when moisture gets into that envelope. [Intro] Welcome to The Health Fix Podcast, where health

junkies get their weekly fix of tips, tools, and techniques to have limitless energy, sharp minds,

and fit physics for life.

Hey, Health junkies.

On this episode of The Health Fix Podcast, I’m interviewing Seth Jones.

He’s the CEO of Hygia Living Corporation, where he and his team developed super stratum,

the first patent pending process to remove mycotoxins from homes.

This is a big deal because you can kill mold, but the mycotoxins, they are released when

when you go after killing the mold in your homes.

I didn’t really understand this till recently.

And Seth has a product that I’m quite interested in

because so many people are suffering

from building related illness.

Now here’s the thing.

We think of building related illness.

We think of mold and I talk all about mold in this podcast,

but it can also be a host of other things.

Now here’s what’s interesting.

Building related illness affects folks differently.

And more often than not,

it’s one of those things that affects your mental health.

And you can often be gaslighted by the medical community.

Your family members can think you’re kind of nutty.

And as a doc who sees folks with mystery illnesses,

building related illness is so important

to have on your radar.

Now, Seth reports that over 66 million homes in the US

have toxic conditions that create building related illness.

Now that means approximately 170 million folks.

That’s a lot of people that are dealing with this.

Why is this happening?

Because of the energy efficiency

that has been pushed on us in terms of how we,

we should be working with our homes, right?

The building of our homes, the construction.

This is something that really needs to be addressed

because I’m seeing folks that are quite sick

and after the pandemic, things blew up

because people were in their homes more.

And now we have more people working from home

and now we have people that are sicker than ever.

Could it be building related illness is possible?

Seth was an international known DJ and songwriter

until he, his partner and other folks

that lived in their home started to get sick.

He himself felt the facts of building related illness

and this is why he dedicated his life to helping folks.

So before I give away all the juicy details

of this podcast, I just wanna say that

if you’re suffering with a mystery illness,

no one can figure out what’s wrong with you.

Maybe you have autoimmune condition,

maybe you’ve moved just you can’t seem to get

your mood right, your energy is low

and nothing seems to be working.

Maybe docs are trying to balance your hormones

it’s not working. You want to assess your home. It is so important to know what’s going on.

So let’s introduce you to Seth Jones so that you can learn a little more about building

related illness and if there could be something lurking in your own home. All right, let’s get

on with the podcast. 

JANNINE: Seth Jones, welcome to The Health Fix Podcast.

SETH: I’m happy to be here. 

JANNINE: Man, we already talked about a lot of things because guys, I had a lot

of questions for him because of course, building related illness is something I deal with in my

office on a daily basis. And so this is a great podcast for me to help keep put the word out about

what is going down in your homes and even your office environments and probably even to talk

about cars too at some point here I’m guessing just all the environments. All the environments.

So Seth, tell us a little bit about your exposure to mold and how this all kind of came to fruition

for you. 

SETH: It’s a wild story. You know, a lot of people ask how I got into this and they

probably expect some strange story, but they really don’t expect me to say that I was a

DJ. I had been, you can see behind me here, I was in music for many years and wound up

in Los Angeles doing that and was kind of touring internationally and just doing my thing and

begin to kind of get a little entrepreneurial bug.

And I met my business partner and I met a guy who had this

interesting chemical formula.

And I didn’t know anything about mold, but that that chemical is now

our endurance coating.

It’s a kind of our flagship product.

It’s a long term mold resistant coating.

So it can last for 20 plus years inside of a home.

Very water resistant and invisible.

So we found this technology and I said, I’m having fun doing music,

but this sounds exciting.

and I came from Louisiana, I grew up in Louisiana, so I knew, like we talked about Washington,

I had seen mold, I said, “Well, if this thing can solve the mold problem, then maybe there’s

an opportunity here.” So that started the company was this product. And the impetus behind that

was we had some friends who had gotten really sick from mold. And for years, they had been

been going to different doctors and we heard this term seers.

So we knew that there was a health issue that was going on.

But at that point, and this was about four years ago, there wasn’t a lot known kind of

about the problem that we were trying to solve.

We knew that mold is an issue, but we kept hearing this term Mycotoxins.

And as we got into the mold remediation space, we realized that, oh, no one knows about mycotoxins.

And the reason no one knows about mycotoxins is because they were really only studied in

the context of food.

You know, that is mold grows in food.

It releases these toxins.

And some estimates say that a quarter of the world’s food stuffs are infected with these

poisonous chemicals that mold creates as a defense mechanism.

but we don’t deal with them that much here

in the developed world.

So, if you looked on the research of these toxins,

there’s all sorts of research on how they cause cancer

and autoimmune diseases and all these different things

because we’ve understood them in terms of ingestion.

Well, through the process of this company,

we realized that we think these things are in the air.

And there was no, at that time,

there were really no testing methods

It could sample for them in the air.

And there was really a consensus within the mold

remediation industry that they didn’t exist

and they weren’t a problem.

But because we came from the health side,

all the doctors that we talked to,

who understood mold, they knew, they told it.

Everybody has mold and micro toxins.

And so we kind of put two and two together.

So I’m living in Los Angeles at the time.

We’re in startup mode and building this company.

What I didn’t understand was, you know, like I talked about in LA,

it rains every January, everything leaks.

The landlords paint over everything and then they deal with it the next year.

And that had happened in my house and it was a, it was a big house,

it’s kind of startup culture.

So there was like a front house and a back house and different people kind of

came in and out and everyone who lived in that house, uh, wound up extremely

sick. Some of them were substance abuse issues, depression, a lot of serious issues, very

serious issues developed as we were building the company, discovering this problem. And

I was in that house. I went to a very difficult relationship. My partner had probably one

of the worst cases of building related illness that I had seen. I had no idea at the time

what was happening. No, no, we hadn’t gotten to that part in our research yet. But it really

created this story for me that by the time we kind of figured out what was happening, we

developed super stratum, which is a solution not for the mold, but for the toxins left

behind by the mold, the mycotoxins that are really driving the chronic disease. I woke

up one day and I said, oh, I think I’ve got this problem too. I think that the ADHD and

the anxiety and these things that I had been dealing with and kind of pursuing more of

a traditional Western solution for might be the result of the very thing that I’m telling

everyone else.

And so that was an interesting realization for me.

And I was passionate about this before, but when I looked in the mirror and I go, “Oh,

I’m sick too.

It really helped frame for me this problem,

not just, oh, that we’re sick,

but how do we even know that we’re sick?

How do we think about our illnesses?

How do we think, like, what is health?

How, you know, it brought up all of these other questions.

And that’s what, you know,

our company is passionate about.

That’s what we’re trying to solve.

And that’s really about, you know,

the education and the tools,

what we’ve built and developed over these years.

You know, we wanna offer them to people

because sometimes, like in even the case that I was in,

just a little bit of information

could have drastically changed the trajectory

of a lot of people’s health,

that some are still recovering from.

So that’s really what we wanna do.

And it’s a little bit kind of how I meander from music

into building the building space.

JANNINE: Hey, you know, as soon as you said,

DJ, I was like, well, that you travel a lot.

You’re exposed to different buildings too.

I mean, some of my sickest people are flight attendants.

And I think because of exposure to a lot of hotels,

different environments, planes, who knows,

and it just made me think like, hmm,

hmm, what’s this, the background?

But one thing you brought up though is the doc saying,

you know, everyone has mycotoxins.

And so a lot of this gets blown off

in conventional medicine spaces,

but at the same time, the symptoms are so varied

and lots of mental health stuff in terms of what I’ve seen as well,

that ultimately it can be passed off as other things.

It can be, you know, almost like an invisible illness situation too,

where folks are just, I don’t know, I want to say, I guess gaslight is probably a

really great term in this case.

SETH: That is the exact term.

Um, and it’s not intentional.

Sometimes it’s negligent.

Um, but really the, the issue is, is, is the reason that it creates so much

mystery illness is because of the way that toxicity works.

Toxicity starts in the environment.

That toxin, you know, if there is a cell, an organ,

an organism that’s in that environment,

then that organism or that cell becomes deficient

in something because the toxin is taking something

that the cell needs.

That deficiency then creates in the cell an adaptation

because the cell is trying to survive.

So it adapts and changes its behavior

to survive in the deficient environment.

If it can’t survive or can’t remove the toxin

or leave the environment,

then it passes on the adaptation as a mutation.

And the mutation creates the symptom.

Now that chain can go a million different ways

depending on individual biology, right?

What toxins and things are in that environment?

And most importantly, genetic predisposition

in THFR mutations, right?

So what we see oftentimes,

And this is really what creates, I would say the most confusion and suffering.

And this was a true in my story because my partner was very sick, very, very sick.

I was not very, very sick.

I was dealing with some things that it actually took me a few years even to realize that, oh,

these patterns that have developed in my thinking were a result of toxicity, but she was extremely

sick.

I couldn’t understand.

I would have never in a million years thought it was the building because I was fine.

And that happens all the time.

And it disproportionately affects women, actually, because there are those toxins affect hormones

in different ways for women.

And women spend more time in the building.

Women typically don’t have the loudest voice in the relationship.

So a lot of times we meet women all the time who hadn’t, they knew what was going on.

They had an intuition, but they were gas lit, right?

They were told, “No, from the doctor, oh, you’re fine.

Take these SSRIs, take these antidepressants, right?

Oh, from the husband in many cases, this building’s fine.

I’m fine, right?

But what a lot of people don’t realize is these symptoms can emerge vastly differently,

right?

So what might happen in a man is he may gain weight or he may not be able to sleep at

night or he may just wake up with the stuff he knows in the morning.

The woman might experience psychosis, depression, anxiety, autoimmune disease.

I mean, there are psoriasis, skin issues, liver issues.

Like you said, how mold effects, mold and mycotoxins affect all of what the, what the

in Eastern medicine, they call the coaches, right?

Our energy sheets, the physical body is just the densest sheet.

That’s where the symptoms emerge.

But we have a subtle energy body that’s our thinking and emotions and even into the,

what they call our astral bodies.

These sicknesses affect those as well.

So the experience oftentimes of mold sickness or toxicity can be spiritual, right?

Or it can be your liver or it can be both, right?

Because there’s a connection between emotion and organs and communication.

So when people get this is a particularly difficult type of illness to get because it’s

not like, oh, I got a virus from a child got a virus at school and the body needs to cover

from the virus.

There’s an assault.

There’s a toxin in the body.

And by the time that people get very sick, there’s usually a soup, right?

Because the toxicity has raised the pH in the body, which meant the parasites and all

the gut issues come.

So now you have an ecosystem of things taking energy from your body, and that’s very difficult

to get out of the body.

But you also have a lot of cellular issues after that.

So just healing the physical body is difficult.

But then when you get into all the interpersonal, inter-relational issues that go into the sickness,

when you get into the mental health, these mycotoxins cross the blood brain barrier.

They inflame, it’s the same neuronal inflammation that TBI and trauma is.

So the experience of a toxic building is your childhood trauma, right?

Because the toxins are in your brain attacking those weak places, those inflamed places in

the brain.

And if you, if your lymphatic system and your lymphatic system can’t get those toxins out

of your body, then you have this base level of toxicity.

that when you travel and you hit that moldy hotel room, it hits you immediately, immediately.

And what happens to a lot of people, even when they start doing detox programs and trying

to pull these toxins out, is they can get their toxicity down enough, but they’re so

sensitive that any change in their environment will wreck their immune system or, you know,

will cause an inflammation reaction.

So when they travel, it makes it very, very difficult.

And they feel like they roll all the way back down the hill.

And I’ve seen people spend years in those cycles of going up and down and up and down.

And what I would always say to people is that if you think in those terms, this is the most

important thing.

This is what you have to address first.

Everything is coming from the environment.

As above, so below, as within, so without.

Everything is why in all of the religions there were these purity codes and ritual cleanings.

It wasn’t just for fun.

It was because that they understood that when we don’t take care of our environment, right,

then we can’t keep these things out.

These other things that come into our lives and affect us, affect our thoughts and our

minds, which is actually what parasites do, right?

They affect our thought.

So there’s something spiritual about this process.

It’s much more than just cleaning your home.

It’s actually understanding our relationship to our environment and doing the work of repentance,

so to speak, to fix all of those problems, to get into right relationship with our environment.

But then it’s also changing the way that we live going forward.

I’ve worked with enough people who have had building related illness to see the patterns

that emerge in the way that they live, the way that families live.

That’s the hardest thing, right?

Because we can fix a building.

It may be cost a little bit of money.

But the technology is there.

We can do it.

But there is this other aspect to these other bodies, our mental body, our emotional body,

our astral body.

And that is also what I’m very passionate about, what our company’s passionate about.

It’s this kind of healing from the top down.

JANNINE: I’m glad you mentioned that because I do see that as well.

definitely you can fix the building, you can have someone move from one apartment to the next,

fog them, clean them, you know, address the mold and we’re going to talk about addressing the

micro toxins in a second because that is different. And that’s something that I think a lot of people

don’t necessarily understand. So we’ll talk about that because a lot of folks I’ve worked with

have something. Yeah, cleaned up the mold, we cleaned up the mold in the area, everything’s good.

We’ll get to that. But it’s the thing you’re addressing is the energetic impact

that these things have, they hijack your body.

And basically, like I’m explaining to a lot of my patients who

work kind of there on the quantum medicine, but not quite there.

I think there still needs to be some education. And the idea is it changes your energy.

And the balance is what’s key. I’m guessing you’ve seen this over and over again.

SETH: Over and over. It really took

understanding the different bodies that we have, right? That everything is energy.

Even our physical body is energy. If you zoom as far down as you can, right? What is it? It’s just

vibrating light, right? Everything is light at a different density of energy. So our physical body

is energy, but so is our emotional body. So is our mental body. So is our spiritual body, so to speak.

And this is throughout, especially the Vedic traditions in Hinduism. They talk about, they call

them coaches, these are energy bodies. And you’re exactly right. Emotional trauma affects our

emotional body. That is information. If you have the same way, it affects, let’s say this is an

emotional toxin. It’s an abusive mother. Well, the child is deficient in the love that it needs,

so it adapts its behavior. It creates that personality. In extreme cases, it actually splits.

The psyche will split, so it creates an adaptation, and then what happens if that child doesn’t heal?

Then when that child has a child, their child carries the memory of that trauma.

That is in the morphogenetic field, right? That’s in the energy field that creates the DNA.

Mold and toxins affect the morphogenetic field. They will change the morphogenetic field of your DNA.

It’s, you can think about it simply like your liver is constantly reproducing cells, right?

It’s regenerated something like every eight weeks or something like that, crazy.

Why do we have these chronic issues in our liver? Even when we get the mold and toxins out,

you know, and I’m sure you see this all the time. It’s so difficult for people to get that final

20%, even after they detox, right? Their body still has the memories and the, the, it’s like

there’s something there that spooks them anytime that they get near it again. That’s in the field,

right? That’s more difficult to fix. It’s cellular health, but it’s morphogenetic work.

And you can do that work in a variety of ways, but one of the most effective ways to do that is

through energy medicine. You know, medicine that’s not dealing with chemicals, right? Because that’s

That’s kind of the lowest stage, the densest stage of energy.

But the systems of energy, the quantum biology, right?

The energy systems of the meridians that are running through the body,

because that’s where a lot of these issues happen when you get into building

related illness and toxins.

And we even have in our questionnaire, you know, I ask customers like,

do you have dreams about demons or ghosts or things trying to kill you?

Often that is a symptom in the astral body of toxins.

And I’ve, one customer in particular, it was a couple

and it was a similar situation.

He wasn’t as sick, she was very sick.

She had this intuition and then in her dreams,

the spirit was coming to her

and she just felt like it was trying to kill her.

And I had been talking about this.

And so she came to me and she said,

I think that there may be mold in the house

And it was a big multi-million dollar home, beautiful home.

And sure enough, we ripped the whole house up.

Like it had spread through the walls, the HVAC system.

And when they really went and took a look,

they actually were both very sick.

They just didn’t really understand it.

So yeah, there are definitely levels to,

yeah, to this type of sickness.

It’s not simple.

JANNINE: Wow.

Yeah, the extreme is the cases where there’s mold

throughout the entire house.

And it’s interesting that you mentioned,

I see that all the time too,

one of the partners may be more sick than the other.

And one of the interesting cases that I’ve seen too,

and this may be something you can speak to

’cause I definitely wanna talk about

how the mica toxins are more of the issue.

Folks will tell me, yeah, we had mold

when we bought the house.

It was disclosed, we cleaned it up, it was remediated,

but I haven’t felt good since I’m in the house.

Let’s talk about that mica.

SETH: Yeah, this is, uh, this is the key, right?

And when we started our company, we didn’t understand that.

We said, okay, well, mold is the problem and mold is a problem.

You can develop allergies.

It can call it can get in your body and grow in your body.

Right.

That happens, but mold is a living organism.

And like most living organisms, it needs to defend itself.

So as a defense mechanism, it creates a poison.

And that poison is, they’re called mycotoxins

and there are a variety of types of mycotoxins.

Mold’s main enemy is actually bacteria, right?

And so mold makes mycotoxins primarily to kill bacteria.

And we actually use one revolutionary mycotoxin

to kill bacteria called penicillin, right?

It comes from a fungus, it’s a mycotoxin

that we use to kill bacteria in our body.

So mold is actually not our greatest enemy

in terms of microorganisms is actually bacteria.

Bacteria is much more dangerous to humans.

However, mold mycotoxins are the nuclear weapons,

so to speak, right?

They’re very powerful.

So what has happened is we have created airtight buildings

and this started in 70s, 80s, especially the 90s, right?

After the energy crisis and we built

energy efficient tight buildings,

that’s wonderful for keeping our energy costs down.

However, there was a hidden cost.

When we trapped air inside of our buildings, we didn’t understand the consequences of

what happened when moisture gets into that envelope.

Because now it can’t evaporate out of that building.

It stays.

And what do you think happens when you see these homes being built and wrapped in plastic

and you see the rain and then they just close them up?

That moisture is already trapped in the building.

And those trusses were laying on that dirt and they got rained on and there was mold

growing on them before the homes even built.

If you go talk to new builders these days, they have mold mediators on speed dial because

they have to remediate the homes before they’re even finished building.

Now that’s a problem, right?

But most builders and homeowners think of it as an expense problem.

Oh, well, we got to get the mold cleaned.

What they don’t consider is that that mold has been releasing a poisonous chemical.

And what also do you think happens when you go and try and clean that mold or kill it

you spray it with the chemical. It releases. It’s going to fight back. It releases the toxin.

So what’s actually happened in many cases with mold remediation is that

someone finds mold. They may say, “Oh, I’m sick and it’s I’m sick from the mold.” The

molder meteor comes in and he does a good job. He removes the mold. However, that mold has spread

toxins throughout the HVAC system because they’ve gotten through the spores and the dust. They’re

they’re in the whole home, that person is acutely sensitive because their toxicity is

built up.

So they’re like a, it’s like a dog’s nose, how they can tell that if a toxin, their

body will just go into inflammation.

The motor meter leaves, doesn’t get the toxins and in some cases made the building more toxic.

So the individual comes back in and they’re anxious.

They feel they, they, they’re chronically fatigued.

They have chronic pain.

They have insomnia.

psoriasis pops up, right? Like name their autoimmune, their pots, they’re right. It’s all there.

And there’s no way they would ever know that the buildings are making them sick because they

got them automated. And the motor meter doesn’t test for the toxins. And there’s no real test

for the toxins. And the chemicals that you use, the way you clean your house doesn’t get rid of

those tough chemicals that stay in the home. They’ll stay. They’re studies that show they stay for

years after the mold is gone. So this problem can persist for years. I mean, you can sell the home.

And I have seen some of the saddest cases that I’ve seen are people who have re-entered the home

after this has happened. I’ve seen people kill themselves. I’ve seen people like

die within months because they were immunocompromised. I’ve seen people develop addictions and have

stroke, it’s this slow grinding sickness that just overtakes a person and you would never,

ever, ever know that that was the root cause because doctors can’t, they don’t test for

these toxins. They don’t show up in regular blood work. Neurologists, I watch people go,

neurology is actually one of the worst places you get gas lit because you come in with these

neurological symptoms. I remember sitting there with a poor customer, got in their HVAC system,

spread, they were having seizures, terrible seizures.

She had a seizure at the coffee shop.

We were meeting it to talk about it.

And she had been to all of the specialists

at a very large hospital who basically was like,

“There’s nothing wrong with you.”

You know, it’s, that’s what makes the sickness so difficult.

And mycotoxins, the real problem is because according

to the government, those conditions,

those water damage conditions are present

in over half of the buildings.

And they say mold is in up to 70%.

So when you’re looking at that,

you’ve got 50 to 70% of all of the buildings,

homes and offices in the United States

that have mycotoxins.

Then some estimates, if you Google these kinds

of genetic conditions, say that 40% of the population

has as predisposed to these toxins,

meaning they can’t get them out of their body.

They can’t methylate, right?

in THFR, this is becoming very popular.

People are starting to realize this, right?

Because there are a lot of other toxins

that we can’t methylate to.

So 40% of the population have one genetic condition.

That’s 60, 70, 80, 100 million people

who are living in mycotoxin environments

who are experiencing an allergy, a food allergy,

a chronic illness, skin issue, an autoimmune disease,

mystery, mental health, and they don’t understand that it’s toxicity in the building.

So they go to the doctor, right?

They get on immunosuppressants, they get on SSRIs and a depressants.

Those are the chronic pills that most people take because they don’t know what’s happening.

They’re depressed.

They feel crazy because they are going crazy because their brain is poisoned.

The doctor just sees the symptom, right?

The psychiatrist just sees the symptom and gives in the pill and then you get all the

interactions.

And when you get on that hamster wheel that’s rolling downhill, it’s very, very difficult.

But to go back to your question, the mycotoxin, it’s motor mediation.

That’s a whole conversation, right?

And you have to do that.

You have to get the mold out of the building.

You can’t just spray the mold and leave it because even when it’s dead, because you’ve

got toxins and spores and all that.

So you want good motor mediation that understands what the cause of the mold was.

Fix the water issue first.

Fix the building.

Remove the mold, tear it out.

Once that’s done, now you need to clean the building envelope of mycotoxins.

And super stratum, our technology, this was our solution for this.

So this is the first solution actually to clean mycotoxins from the building.

It’s a three phase system.

It uses three unique chemistries.

first chemistry, this product is called our building cleaner.

So it’s a hypochlorous acid.

When you hear acid, it’s like, oh, it must be dangerous.

I brush my teeth with it every morning.

I spray it up my nose.

I nebulize it.

I put it on my skin.

It’s made inside of your own body.

Your white blood cells actually generate hypochlorous acid.

So it’s extremely safe.

And when it breaks down, all you’re left with is salt.

So we created a product from a very specific type of manufacturing that we used to create

this molecule.

And you said you saw our white paper.

So this was the first white paper that was released that we did to show that this chem

that we can destroy the actual chemical.

And we were very successful.

So we’ve got a very, very safe product that has an incredible efficacy to destroy these

toxins.

first phase of the whole home, the super stratum whole home system is to fog hyperchloric acid

into the building.

And that knocks things down out of the air, all the particulates, it destroys toxins on

surfaces.

And then we do a, you do a wipe down.

So you wipe all the surfaces with that chemical.

The second phase is a gas phase.

We have a product called super stratum deodor bombs.

And the deodor bombs will talk about the cars.

This is a little dry sponge and you put them in all the rooms of the home.

You fill up with water and then you leave the house for 12 hours and it fills that whole

home up with chlorine dioxide gas.

Now chlorine dioxide, it’s the most powerful oxidation chemical that we have.

The chemical is actually used during the anthrax.

They brought it in.

It’s used in anti-microbial agents and things.

The problem with using it commercially was it was very expensive and very difficult to

to generate as a gas.

So our technology and product,

it’s like bite-sized pieces of it, right?

You can put them in each room

and it makes just the right amount of gas.

And what that gas does is it penetrates

all the places that you can’t see, right?

Behind the walls, into the clothes,

into all the soft goods,

the things that accumulate these toxins.

And as you know, people just throw these things away

’cause you can’t get them out.

These toxins are sticky.

They don’t, they stay.

You can wash over and over and over

and some people just can’t even put their clothes back on.

So this gas will penetrate behind the walls

and break down toxins and odors and those types of things.

And then the third phase is once you let the building air out

from that gas, the first product that I talked about,

how we found and started the company,

this is our endurance coating.

And this is an invisible water resistant,

extremely water resistant and abrasion resistant coating

that you can put inside and outside.

And this was the technology when we found this,

We said, oh, this is the secret sauce.

There was no cleaner or coating that could prevent mold

if it got wet, right?

Everything just washes away.

You can kill mold, but it washes away.

If you get moisture, well, what makes mold grow?

Moisture, that’s why we have mold problems, right?

Because we can’t prevent mold from growing.

This invisible coating can resist mold.

So it has preservatives in it.

You can’t see them, but they’re encapsulated there.

And when multiples land,

it can’t grow on the surface of that coating.

So you can put that on your sidewalk out front

where algae grows on the side of your home.

You can put it on your clothing.

You can also put it inside the cavity of a wall

in your HVAC system.

And outside, like on your sidewalk,

it’ll last for two years.

You won’t have anything to grow for a couple of years.

Inside the home, it is essentially,

It can last for 25 years when our HIGI service division,

when we do that professionally,

we warranty that for 15 years.

So it’s that peace of mind that to know

that even if you get condensation again,

if you have a flood in the house,

you’re not gonna have mold growing

because you’ve got this water resistant protection

going forward.

So that super stratum, whole home system,

that is the solution that we developed.

And rather than we worked with a lot of professionals

and the industry, but what we decided was we need to take this straight to the customer,

right? And as you know, right, when you can put something in someone’s hands and they can

actually get that done themselves, I mean, people are, they need those solutions. So

we developed a consumer product and we sell direct to the customer and they can get on

our website, they can enter in their home, you know, it creates a custom, a custom order

for them, it ships to their door, it’s got their instructions and they can run the system

on their home. So it’s a great solution for people who are dealing with BRI, who have

just had mold remediation done. And it’s frankly, it’s just a great cleaning system.

Getting back to this lifestyle, it’s something that I do in my house. When I fog, I’ve got

a fogger, when I fog hypochloric acid, the air clears, I mean, I can immediately tell

a difference. So it’s about that lifestyle and this is their tools and a solution that

allows people to detox by their home and then gives them these ways to maintain that environment

going forward.

JANNINE: Wow.

That’s incredible because I think a lot of people, let’s put it this way, like one,

moving is not an option for a lot of people.

You know, they’ve just dropped a bunch of money on a home and, you know, also thinking

about the homes that are wrapped.

That’s something I discovered when I bought my home here in Wisconsin, completely wrapped.

I panicked.

I’m like, oh my God, what do we do?

But knowing that the gas can get through the walls, right?

So through the drywall into–

so I’m not having to because at one point

we were talking about basically trying

to figure out how to take the plastic off the home

or how to vent.

And it seems like that would be building your house

at this point.

So–

SETH: Yeah.

Yeah.

And we’re starting to get scared these days now

with these airtight buildings.

and everyone’s kind of realizing, wait a minute,

like we’re living inside ziploc bags, you know?

And that’s true, but at the same time,

when you understand the components that go into this,

and you can create a healthy environment

in an enclosed space, right?

And one of the ways to do that obviously is you need to

make sure there’s no mold growing,

you need to get the toxins out,

but going forward, air quality and air purification,

you know, is a big part of that.

And there’s another technology that personally I really,

really like called multi-cluster ionization.

And this is not commonly found in most air purifiers

and ionizers, the big ones on the market.

There’s two types of air purification, right?

There’s active and passive.

Passive is when you’re drawing things into a filter.

So an air filter, you suck all the energy in.

But if you’ve ever seen a pool, right,

you know, that leaf that just spins in the corner of the pool,

your air is the same way.

So there’s some air, you’re not getting all of the air

to that filter.

So that’s the first flaw with passive,

but the second is filters.

You know, the best HEPA filters can collect down

to about 0.3 microns.

So you can catch a mold spore in those types of things,

but it’s too small for mycotoxin.

Mycotoxins are 0.1 nano or 0.10, 0.01 nanometers.

So they go straight through.

And oftentimes what happens is you get particle bounce.

So the dust or the spore comes through,

hits the filter and the micro toxin goes out the back.

So that is one issue is that,

it’s important for people to understand

that filters are gray, right?

You wanna purify your air,

but they won’t get you all the way there,

especially if you’re dealing with toxins.

So that’s passive, right?

Bringing air to the filter.

Active is when you send things out

into the environment to purify.

That is ionization.

Now, the ionization that you find on the market today

is what’s called bipolar.

So it’s basically creating a single ion,

shooting it out.

I’d say it’s like a water balloon, right?

It can travel in a straight line, not very far,

and then it pops.

Ionization in nature is generated through lightning strikes

and the electromagnetic currents in the air.

It takes a lot of energy to create powerful ions.

Multi-cluster ionization actually creates

much, much more powerful ion that is a cluster because it’s clustered together.

These have 10 times the amount of bipolar ionization. They can spread the coverage areas much, much

larger because those single ions can’t travel very far. And bipolar ionization is great because

it does a few things. It goes out. It’s ionizing microbes and different things. So it’s doing that.

but it’s also changing the charge of the dust particles in the air. So they fall to the floor

and that assists with cleaning. So I, like I said, there’s a couple of devices out there.

There’s a device called a chaos, which has a filter, like a HEPA filter in it. So it’s doing

a filter, but it’s also got the multicluster ionization. And I can probably link to that.

I can send you a link to that as well. But that’s one of the things that when our customers

go and get a device like that and put it in their environment. It’s one of those, it’s

like a bubble that they can kind of carry around them. It helps them manage the environment.

If they travel, it gives them that kind of long-term solution of maintaining that environment.

And oftentimes we hear almost immediately, like the next day, I woke up for the first

time without a stuffy nose or what, because that air is getting cleared out, because those

particular are just in the air. So when you start to combine these solutions together,

you can really change your health because you fix that environment, you purify that air,

and now your nervous system finally can relax, right? Your immune system can finally have

some energy, you know, fight. You have the peace of mind of knowing that your billing

is not there. So there’s a few different things that we like to help people understand they

can do depending on their price point, depending on what issues they have going on in their

home. But our Superstratum system is a very powerful tool that’s much more affordable

than a lot of the professional services that are out there. And then the air purification,

those two things, whether if you’re own your home, right, and you’re trying to treat your

whole building, that’s, but also renting, right? And I know that you experience this a lot, just

people can’t move, right? Or, and they don’t even have control over that environment.

They can’t get there. There’s no laws, right? There’s no liability. So they can’t get their landlord

to pay for it. You know, so we like to help people come up with solutions. Like, what’s the next

best thing that you can do? You know, how can you get a little bit of traction, you know, so that

you can get a little bit better because it’s not binary too and that’s ultimately the point I

wanted to make is that yeah we seal our homes in but it’s about education and learning and

information and impairing the right solutions with that education so that you can create a

healthy living environment for your family. 

JANNINE: Absolutely yeah we have to think about all the

inputs going on there because there are varied situations based on homes, apartments, someone

someone’s on a boat.

There’s all the environments there.

Now it sounds like, so you said you guys do consults

and it sounds like you have the ability

to kind of find out what kind of living space

and treatments are based on size, I’m guessing,

of space at different intricacies.

SETH: Yep, cubic volume of the rooms,

how much gas you need, the size.

A lot of, so our coding is a great solution

for crawl spaces and attics.

And you get different parts of the country,

you get different problems in buildings that develop mold.

So in the South, right, you get a lot of condensations

and HVAC lines, those types of things.

Up in the North, you get a lot of attic rain

because of the winter.

So depending on if someone wants to coat their attic

or coat their crawl space or what needs to be done,

we can adjust it.

But like I said, on our website,

if you go to the website, there’s a chat bot

and you can just go right there

and send you to some software.

And it’ll probably take you half an hour

if you’ve got a tape measure,

walk around your home and just enter in the dimensions of all the rooms and then it’ll create a custom

quote and a custom order of all the products, tell you where they go and how to use them.

So it really does depend kind of on the size of the home or the building or what you’re doing.

But there’s also you know you brought up cars, I love that you brought up cars because a lot of

people don’t realize how much exposure they’re getting in their vehicles. And our Dior bomb

is a great solution for that. You can basically overnight, just put one in the car, close it up,

you know, come back in the morning, open it up and air it out. And it smells like you got a new car.

So yeah, it’s just being aware of these things, understanding what those tools are, and then

getting in that lifestyle, you know, so that you maintain that environment.

JANNINE: Makes sense. Makes sense. Now you said smells like a new car. I know a lot of people are going to be

like, does it emit a new car smell? 

SETH: Not the new car smell.

JANNINE: because it gets rid of the smells.

SETH: It feels fresh, right?

Now, the smell that you’ll notice,

it kind of is like, so like I said,

the gas is chlorine dioxide.

So there’s a little bit of like a chlorine,

it smells like it’s been cleaned, basically.

And that dissipates over time as it breaks down

or as you air it out.

But that’s the gas that gets in and breaks everything down.

JANNINE: Okay, so you could do that a couple times a year,

I’m guessing.

And then in terms of like houses,

just like house maintenance,

It sounded like you said the sealant,

I’m just gonna say it.

SETH: The coating, yeah.

JANNINE: Yes, the coating is like gonna last 15 years

in terms of your guarantee, but it could last longer.

So that sounds like you do that once in every 15-ish years.

SETH: Yeah, you wouldn’t, you know, like let’s say

if you had mold remediation done and they ripped out,

you know, the wall and they’ve gotten all the mold out.

A lot of the way that mold meters use that product

then they’ll spray the joist and the drywall so that that protected coating is there.

You would never open that wall up again, right?

You’d never do that again.

It would last for as long as you were in the house, right?

And so let’s say it leaked again or the house flooded.

Well, you wouldn’t have any mold to grow.

Even if it was 10 years later, nothing would grow in that cavity.

So the coating in an undisturbed location like that, it’s a long-term solution.

Now, like I said, if you’re using it on your outdoor patio furniture, which is a great

place to use it, where I use it, it’ll last for a couple of years.

Every year or so, there may be dirt that you’ll clean off, but there won’t be any growth,

so you can just spray, re-up that coating every year or two.

Then a lot of people use that product in their shower.

I use it in the shower too.

It’ll last for about 10, 12 weeks in the shower.

just becomes a part of your cleaning cycle.

You know, you can kind of spray your shower.

What we, what we really like to encourage people to do

is our building cleaner, the hypochlorous acid.

That’s a Swiss army knife of a cleaner.

I use that often.

Like I said, it’s a fascinating chemical

that’s being used in like a lot of medical fields.

It mouth washes and I tell the ladies this,

Now they’re selling hypochlorous acid in these little four ounce bottles for $40.

It’s an incredible antibacterial spray.

That’s how they use it.

But it’s all the same chemical.

So it’s a great chemical just to use around the house.

I wash my vegetables with it.

I get them back from the store and I spray them down.

So that’s a good one that you can use.

And people, that’s probably our most popular product.

We have two versions of that chemical.

One is our building cleaner.

That’s a 500 part per million, very high concentrated.

That’s what we use for the detoxification.

Then we have our everyday cleaner, which is a 300 part per million solution.

That’s what I’ve got bottles all over the house and I use it for everything.

Gotcha.

Okay.

How often would you recommend doing a home detox cleaning with this solution?

The whole home system, you really only need to do it once.

If you have a mold issue and your house has gotten toxic,

you want to remove that mold, fix the water,

remove the mold, and then run the whole home system

to get the micro toxins out.

Once you’ve done that, as long as you don’t have any mold

that starts growing again in that environment,

the toxins aren’t gonna return, right?

‘Cause you’ve gotten rid of them.

And hopefully you maintain that environment

so that there’s no mold growing.

So it’s really a one-time expense in terms of,

If you don’t have these reoccurring issues,

then hopefully you never have to do it again.

And then you do the basic cleaning, the air purification,

the things to keep those molds bores and those toxins

from growing and spreading again in that environment.

But yeah, if it is more of a band-aid solution,

let’s say that you’ve got an environment

that you’re just trying to manage and maintain.

It may last a year, it may last two years,

It may last six months.

It just all depends on how aggressive, you know, how much water, how much is coming back.

But when you do it the way that we recommend, which is to do these things in sequence, right?

Fix the building issue, remove the mold, remove the mica toxins.

You shouldn’t have the problem again.

JANNINE: Nice.

Nice.

Yeah.

I think that was good and clear for folks to hear that because I think for a lot of people,

you know, we have the options of calling different mode remediation companies, but they’re not

taking care of the mycotoxins

of this is that we could just

feel as crappy as we did before.

Unfortunately.

Or worse like you explained.

And that’s the key here.

And you know I think the biggest thing to think about too is a lot of people do I have

to– 

SETH: They say your belongings too. You know alot of people–I’ve met so many

people right when they come to us and say, “Oh, we got them all.

We threw away everything we own.”

And I’m like, “Oh, I wish I would have met you a couple of weeks ago.”

But that’s what people had to do.

And that is really, I’m glad that you bring that up.

A lot of what we tell our customers is like, “We understand.

You’re not alone.

It’s okay.”

They’re so overwhelmed and there’s so much out there or there’s nothing out there or

where everything’s different.

You know, what I like to just tell people

from the first thing I tell them is just like,

we’ll get it done, right?

Even if you don’t know exactly, we haven’t gotten,

you know, there’s a couple of other questions with things

we have to figure out.

You know, we’re getting to the point

where we understand building related illness

and its causes and how it relates to these issues

within the building.

And, you know, you can’t sugarcoat it.

For some people, it can be expensive.

For some people, it can be stressful, right?

But before there were many people who got into situations

where if you can’t get the micro toxins out,

there’s some people that cannot live in that home.

And in that case, you have to move.

And that’s not the case anymore, right?

We’ve got a solution for those toxins.

So it’s still early.

We’re the only company that’s doing this right now.

So it’s still early.

and you can get into some difficult situations,

but everyone in our company has been through this personally.

This is what we deal with every day.

We’re passionate about that.

We’re passionate not just about, yeah, use our products,

but we’re passionate about education,

and we’re also passionate about supporting people

through the process.

They’re not feeling alone.

We’ve got a lot of things that we’re gonna be doing

in the future around building communities,

support communities.

It’s the thing I hear the most often from people.

They just said, oh my gosh, just talking to you

makes me feel like I’m not crazy.

Because I’m getting validation from all the things

that I’ve felt in my body, or I felt in a relationship,

or I’ve known, you know, somehow, intuitively,

but I just didn’t have the words or the awareness.

So it’s all about that.

It’s about creating that solution for people,

you know, giving them hope in this situation,

which some of the most hopeless,

just the most tragic hopeless stories.

So yeah.

JANNINE: Yeah, I’m having seen quite a few of my patients

go through this, I mean, it is awful.

It is awful.

And so yes, absolutely excited to be able to share

this podcast with folks and just educate more

on that there are solutions.

And you guys definitely have a unique one

since you said you’re the only one out there.

Now let’s tell folks where they can find you,

how they can consult, how they can use the chat bot

to figure out what they need and all of the above.

SETH: Absolutely.

So I would say for people who have had mold remediation

or who are dealing with a micro toxin issue,

lingering illnesses or the suspicion of that in their home,

superstratum.co, and I’ll put that link

in the description, that’s the mycotoxin solution.

So they can go to superstratum.co,

they can go contact us if they wanna talk directly

to somebody or go to our chat bot.

And that will provide them some information,

answer some basic questions,

and then direct them to the place

where if they wanna get a quote for our whole home system,

for all of those products to do that process,

then they can create that quote right there

and talk to an agent.

So it’s custom, right?

We wanna help build the right solution

for that customer, for mycotoxins.

If someone’s dealing with a mold issue

or they’re dealing with a building science issue,

EMF, there are other building-related illness issues

that we haven’t talked about

that really kind of aggravate the microbial things.

They can go to hygia.life.

So that’s our service arm.

And we’ve got a great team,

a great team of women there actually,

who are experts in building science

and mold remediation and those types of things.

And we serve the middle Tennessee area primarily

with HVAC cleaning, mold remediation,

micro toxin cleaning, all the professional services

needed to rehabilitate a sick building.

But we also provide nationwide consultation,

and we do do nationwide mycotoxin cleaning.

‘Cause there are a lot of people,

maybe elderly people, or people have very large houses

who are like, “Oh, I want this done in my house,

“but I can’t handle doing that work.”

So we have professional teams that can come in,

And it’s about a two day process where they will run that system and do the cleaning.

So we do that nationwide as well and you can find that service at hygia.life.

And then I think for the khaos air filter, there’s, I think it’s khaos.air or khaosair.com

and that’s k-h-a-o-s-air.com.

And that’s a pretty, it’s a smaller company that I think makes those filters, but that

you can do more research there and find those air purifiers

that I was talking about, the multi-cluster ionization.

JANNINE: Very cool.

Seth, you are a wealth of information

and yes, no doubt EMFs are part of it.

There’s, I mean, there’s a lot more we could talk about

here for sure.

We probably have to get you back and chat further

on those things, but for now we’ll leave folks

with figuring out what’s going on with the mold

and mycotoxins in their home and check out

it’s HYGIA.life, yes.

SETH: HIGEA.life.

JANNINE: Yep, and superstratum.co.

So guys, check those out.

I’ll have them in my podcast notes at doctorjkrausend.com.

Seth, thanks again for coming on

and sharing all of this information, incredible stuff.

SETH: Thank you so much for having me.

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