Ep 491: Interconnections of Emotions, the Subconscious Mind and the Psycho-Neuro-Endo-Immune System With Dr. Jade Teta

Sick of being sick and nothing you try seems to work? What do you do when you’re not getting results with your treatment protocols, workouts or diet?  You start asking questions and look deeper into your energetic makeup and your subconscious mind.  Dr. Jade Teta is Naturopathic Doctor, Author, Educator, and Entrepreneur who’s combined over 30 years of experience in personal training with 20 years in functional medicine to help humans discover their jobs and purpose in life.  Through the Next Level Human program Dr. Teta is inpiring clients to dive into their nervous system and the subconscious mind to achieve lasting results with their health. In this episode of The Health Fix Podcast, Dr. Jannine Krause and Dr. Jade Teta dive into what’s actually driving your psycho-neuro-endo-immune system and how to get lasting results with your efforts.

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Podcast Transcript

2:55 Dr. Jade’s Background

7:52 – The subconscious psychology

16:59 – Connecting the dots between emotions and health

18:19 – Chakras and Chinese medicine

21:43 – Removing “blocks” or toxic environments

26:07 – Are you seeing repeated patterns in your life?

34:26 – Does acupuncture help with emotions?

44:53 – How does 5G and EMF’s affect our bodies?

48:14 – Structured water, what’s the scoop?

101:15 – Next Level Human Podcast / Program

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[Intro] Welcome to The Health Fix Podcast, where health junkies get their weekly

fix of tips, tools, and techniques to have limitless energy, sharp minds, and fit

physiques for life.

Hey Health Junkies!

On this episode of the HealthFix Podcast, I’m interviewing fellow naturopathic doctor,

author, educator, and entrepreneur, Dr. Jade Teta.

He combines over 30 years of experience in personal training with 20 years in

medicine in his next level human program. Now in this episode we’ll be diving into

how we both have come to realize a couple things when it comes to getting results

with clients and we realize that you gotta address the nervous system in the

subconscious mind before you can see lasting results with muscle metabolism

weight loss you name it crown any kind of chronic illness. So Jay didn’t I dive

into how emotions can block healing. We talk about quantum medicine, we talk about bio-fields,

we talk about Jake’s take on structured water, longevity, and more. So if you’re

stuck in your health journey or you’re wondering like if there’s just something

holding you back from achieving optimal health when it seems like people around

you are getting quick fixes and you’re just stuck, this podcast will definitely

enlighten you. Because Jayden are gonna talk about what’s out there in the

research and what two docs see and I actually see in real life as we see clients.

And we talk about patterns we’re seeing.

We talk about how things are developing the connections between emotions and

illness. And we talk about what it really takes to get true lasting optimal

health. This one’s a great podcast.

We have a great conversation and it’s, it’s too naturopaths getting real.

So let’s jump into the podcast and introduce you to Dr. Jade Teta.

[JANNINE] Dr. Jade Teta, welcome to The Health Fix podcast.

DR. TETA: Hey, Jannine, how are you?

So excited to be here.

Happy to have this conversation.

Looking forward to it.

JANNINE: Oh, man.

It’s always good when I get to talk with a naturopath,

especially one that was in the same realm as me at Bastir in the same years.

Even though we didn’t, we didn’t, we maybe talk to knows,

It was so long ago, like who the heck knows, right?

So nevertheless, today I want to just bring you

in the conversation of how you and I both kind of evolved

in our practices.

You know, we got why we got into naturopath

to big medicine the first place

and then how it’s come to be like,

okay, we need something more.

We got an up level and of course next level human,

which you got going on there is the,

let’s say the peak of what I would love

to be helping folks with.

So let’s get folks a little background like you jumped in a naturopathic medicine.

What drew you to what drew your brother to it? Both of you guys.

DR. TETA: Yeah. Well, you know, first of all, my mom is, uh,

I would call her one of the original new age hippies kind of thing.

So I grew up in a household with a mother who was very much into natural

living. And believe it or not, I actually started personal training at 15 years

old. So, uh, I say that because that’s the first time I ever got paid to write

a program for somebody, right?

You know, to actually I was writing programs

and workout programs for my football teammates.

And then I started doing programs for their mothers

and family members and things like that.

And so my mom was very much into health food

and that kind of stuff.

I got into fitness sort of very early,

started personal training very early,

worked through high school, through undergrad, doing that,

worked through Bastyr University Medical School,

basically paid my way through Bastyr

by personal training and bartending,

which is interesting, which we’ll get into in just a minute

because it does dovetail into my interest in psychology.

And so my interest has always been lifestyle,

sort of health, fitness, nutrition, and psychology stuff.

And probably like a lot of people to get into this work,

I actually did not think actually much about it, Jannine.

I was on my way to traditional medical school

and it was basically all set to go.

I had a mentor there at East Carolina University

who was grooming me to kind of come into that program.

And then I happened to look at the curriculum

for traditional medicine.

And I don’t know why I had never looked at it before,

but it was, you know, to that point, it’s like,

okay, what am I gonna be studying?

And what I found was no surprise,

probably to a lot of people listening to this

and certainly no surprise to you, no nutrition,

no psychology, no fitness.

And so all of a sudden here I am thinking,

That’s what I’m already doing.

This is what I want to make my life’s work.

And I’m like, you mean to tell me I’m not getting any training in psychology,

no training in nutrition and no training in exercise?

And that kind of put me into a little bit of a tailspin, actually,

a little bit of a early midlife crisis, I guess, in my early 20s.

And I was like, what am I going to do now?

And at the time, now for you and I, it’s been a while, right?

So at the time, if someone had mentored naturopathic medicine

or functional medicine really wasn’t a thing,

That was considered like witchcraft, new age, woo woo medicine.

No one had any idea it was gonna go mainstream.

At that point in time, I was like, you know what?

I’m doing this.

And I know that everyone, my mentor told me,

don’t do it, my dad told me, don’t do it.

My brother Keowne was finishing up his master’s degree

and he decided, hey, I’m gonna do that too.

And so that was sort of the evolution

into naturopathic medicine,

which I think we might call functional medicine now.

We were the original functional medicine practitioners

and are the original functional medicine practitioners.

And then I spent most of my time in clinic

when I came out of Bastyr,

basically working side by side in the clinic

and building a health and fitness business.

So anyone who knows some of my past work

knows that I started a company called Metabolic Effect,

Metabolic.com basically made a lot of my end roads

with workouts.

And this will bring us up to present day

what you and I were talking about just before we got online. One of the things about me is

for better or for worse, Janine, I am one of these people who is a little bit of a renegade

and a little bit can go a little bit rogue at times, but I am someone who just wants to

do what works. So I don’t really care where it comes from, whether it’s traditional medicine,

natural medicine, ancient practices. I don’t care. I just want to do things that work for

my clients. And that’s one of the reasons I went into naturopathic medicine first,

because I was like, well, traditional medicine is great at emergency care.

They absolutely suck at chronic disease.

I want to do lifestyle medicine.

So I moved into naturopathic medicine, but I will tell you and

admitted this to you right before we came online that I also after 20 years

in the functional medicine space have also become disillusioned with

the ability to get real results for people.

Now make no mistake, it is light years better in my mind

this medicine for chronic disease issues, then traditional medicine could ever be.

That being said though, I still bumped into this arena where I’m like, I’m not serving

most of the people that I see.

They’re either not able to make the change or when they are making the change, these

things are not necessarily doing the trick.

And so this is what has got me into the work I’ve been doing for probably the last 10 years

or so.

maybe perhaps a little bit longer than that.

And that is in the psychology realm

and in the realm of what I might call quantum metabolism

or a transpersonal psychology,

basically looking at what goes on

in the subconscious psychology.

So if we take the idea of neuroendocrine immune system,

put psycho neuroendocrine immune on that

and then put on that bio field

and the quantum field into the psycho neuroendocrine immune system.

And so what I’ve gone is sort of deeper into what is actually driving our psychology,

our neurology, our endocrinology, our immunology.

And what I have found is that a lot of that is stuff that you and I never really learned

in an actor you may have.

I never did.

You were a little bit more broad in your education, right?

You know, you did a dual track into acupuncture and oriental medicine and that kind of thing.

I never did that.

My brother did, but now I find myself squarely studying

and paying attention to some of the things,

frankly, Jannine, that I ignored and/or avoided

because of my evidence-based mindset when we were in school.

Like, for example, we studied chakras

and we studied energy medicine

and we studied some of this stuff.

And I kind of saw that as fringe

and didn’t pay much attention to it.

So it is surprising now that I am squarely in that.

space and delving into that space and finding that I’m able to achieve outcomes that I am not

able to achieve with the supplements and the diet and the exercise and very excited about that.

So that’s my long-winded sort of way of bringing you on the journey of where I am today. And I know

you and I, you know, you, we overlap a little bit on this journey. So yeah, so that’s my story in a

in a nutshell.

JANNINE: It’s– you know, I think it’s not it’s it’s a beginning to be more of a common one as a

lot of us naturopaths are getting in the game longer and being like, there’s something

there’s something else there’s got to be something else or if we’re folks that like,

like I’m much like you if I’m not getting results, I’m not happy.

I’m not happy.

You know, I’m like, I need something else, not something else, something else.

And the quantum and in this realm is definitely where I’m feeling like, okay, I have found

found the holistic, found the whole thing.

But like you, I totally was like,

when we talk about chakras, I was like, oh God.

Like even in acupuncture, like my brain was,

I put the needles, I get rid of the pain.

I don’t think about the energy.

Like what the heck I’m like.

DR. TETA: Isn’t that interesting?

Yeah.

JANNINE: How much, how much do we miss out on?

I don’t know.

DR. TETA: Yeah, well, you know, so here’s the thing.

I’d be curious where you are with this, right?

So one of the things about this was first,

just sort of going in, when you’re in clinic,

what you see is you see,

there’s art and science to everything we do, right?

So one of the things I began to see is particular patterns

that I ignored and avoided for a long time.

And these patterns were essentially

what I might call emotional patterns.

We could even call it traumatic trauma type stuff.

I just don’t love the word trauma

because a lot of people don’t relate to it.

It’s very overused and not everyone has big capital T

traumas in their lives.

However, we all go through childhood development,

adolescent development, young adult development,

and of course, even in adulthood,

we all deal with difficulties.

We all deal with trials and tribulations.

I mean, one of the, one of the things we could say

about being human is that we all suffer.

Like, you know, you and I have just met,

Jannine, you know, we know that we each suffer.

We know all the listeners suffer.

They know that about us.

It’s what is the commonality between us humans.

And when I say suffering, I mean mental emotional suffering.

So to me, suffering is the mental emotional equivalent

of physical pain.

And what I feel is that medicine has completely avoided

and or had nothing to say in this realm.

And what I began to see is that people’s mental emotional

suffering seem to coincide with certain conditions.

And certainly I couldn’t make much sense of that

and still honestly can’t in terms of being able to be like,

Oh, someone has grief or someone has betrayal

or someone has this, and it correlates

with a specific disease.

I don’t know anything about that yet,

but what I did see is that there was always

this mental emotional suffering component

that seemed to pre-seed and/or come along

with certain conditions.

And that made, that’s the thing that made me

start paying attention.

And then when I started getting into things like meditation,

certainly breath work, these kinds of things,

seeing some of the emotional releases

that would occur in, for example, some of the psychedelic therapies that I started to delve into

and then seeing some of these physical complaints also clearing up. This is the thing that started

to make me pay sort of close attention. And maybe we could start this discussion and I’ll get your

sort of take on this and see what you think about this. But one of the things I started to see is

that emotions, something that I have largely not been, you know, trained in and paid much

attention to, even in naturopathic school, seem to be to me to be something that was

important, almost like maybe a spiritual, mental, emotional inflammatory marker, let’s

say, certain emotions, like emotions like anger and frustration and resistance and anxiety

and insecurity and depression seem to be proceeding oftentimes some of the physical complaints

that I was dealing with. So I started looking very closely at emotions. And funnily enough,

there’s not much there and there still is not much there. But now that I began to see emotions

much like, let’s say a twisted ankle that gets hot red and swollen to make you pay attention to

to that ankle so that you don’t damage it further.

I started to see these emotions as sort of like

the twisted ankle of the psyche,

making you pay close attention,

almost like saying, “Hey, Jade, hey, Janine, hey, listener,

this is where you need to look.”

There’s a pattern here, there’s an obstacle here,

a stuck emotion pointing us to something

that is holding us back in our lives.

And that’s what then got me back looking at chakras, actually,

because then I was like, okay, well,

if these emotions are associated with,

you know, sort of physical, sort of physical things,

how can I tie this back in?

And then I remembered, oh, we studied this at one point.

We looked at these energy centers

that Ayurvedic Medicine talked about.

And I went back and started looking at that

and lo and behold, actually a couple years ago,

now we know the chakras have actually been proven

to exist via, you know, science.

They have actually measured these electromagnetic fields

in specific areas that correlate to these old chakra centers.

And that’s what got me to start paying close attention.

So now I am dealing very much with emotional states

and processing the stories that come around

with those emotional states.

And many of those stories, harken back

to childhood development, adolescent development,

young adult development, and even adult portrayals

and difficulties and trials and tribulations.

And this seems to be where I am beginning to make inroads again.

It can only get so far with diet and exercise.

And this is adding another layer.

I’m not going to say that it’s the holy grail perhaps.

I think we still have a long way to go to understand exactly

all the components.

But to your point and what you mentioned,

it seems to be another important holistic component

that we’ve been ignoring, certainly I have,

that now that I’m beginning to address this

seems to be making bigger differences.

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DR. JADE: Listen, so I’d be curious your thoughts,

your experience in this realm

and any of things that you’ve also noticed in this regard.

JANNINE: Oh my gosh.

Yeah, I too was kind of like ignoring it.

You know, oh, that’s woo-woo.

Even though like Chinese medicine also kind of like

the shock are as you can line up the emotions

with the different locations in the body, the different channels.

And after a certain point in time, I couldn’t ignore it anymore because the

same patterns kept showing up.

And now that I’ve reached the point where I’ve seen the same people in the

Tacoma, Washington area for over a decade, I started to see the evolution of

their health.

And I’m sure you’ve probably seen that too with evolution of people you’ve seen

for a long time.

You’re like, Oh my gosh.

And because I focus mostly with women and like now we’re going into the

Perry menopause and menopause thing.

I’m like, all of the emotions are everywhere.

And I’m seeing signs through all connecting rap, right?

I didn’t pay attention, but, but yes, I 100% have been able to kind

of start connecting the dots with chakra or even like the

Chinese medicine, emotion and organ connections.

It’s disturbing sometimes.

How accurate.

DR. JADE: Yeah, I’m curious.

Can you educate me on where these, some of these emotions are?

I know, like some of them, I think I know like what anger is

associated with the liver, certain things like that. But is that what you’re, you’re

kind of lining up in these chakras and the traditional Chinese medicine overlap a little

bit? I, that’s an area that I’m not well versed in, but I’m curious about.

JANNINE: Yeah. So the way I’m kind of overlapping in, by all means it, like it’s, it’s not 100%

perfect. But if someone’s got anger, right? Yes, totally goes with the liver, then I’m

going to look at what’s going on with the, the sternal chakra there. And I’m going to

see, okay, what’s going on in that department doesn’t link, or are we pushing stuff up to

the throat chakra?

Because we’ll see in Chinese medicine, the liver gets stuck and it pushes stuff up to

the heart, which chakra wise, it’s also pushing stuff hard.

And it can go all the way up to the throat because there’s the heart chakra.

There’s the throat chakra.

So I’m seeing that now heart, that emotion is anxiety.

It’s also overjoy, but I have, I have yet to see someone that I really would be like,

Oh, they are too overjoy.

I want that. I want that someday. But the anxiety, yes. You know, the spleen, the digestive

system, this is worry, kidney, spear, and and lungs are all about grief. And so we have

those main ones. And then there’s the paired organs, of course, that go with them. So like

grief, large intestine and lung and liver gallbladder go with anger and heart and small intestine

go along with the anxiety. And so now you can see why we have it IBS, right? And all the

the gut stuff. And so it’s just like, Oh my gosh, why, why did I

ignore this? I’m not sure. And like kidneys, kidneys goes with

urinary bladder, just to complete out and spleen stomach for the

digestive there for worry. So it’s like, gosh, how did I miss

this? But they do they do correlate if you look across the

the pattern for chakra to Chinese organs, like kidneys are

right in the area starting to go down low towards sacral chakra.

and pelvic floor stuff. It’s crazy.

DR. JADE: I love that. I love it so much, right?

And I do think that one of the things

that after being in this space for a while,

I’m being a pretty evidence-based guy for a very long time,

I do think that avoiding the art of this has not served me.

So now I’m squarely back in this area.

And I also began to look at this

in kind of a three-part process, really.

Like from my perspective, we have a lot,

Like there is some really cool stuff going on right now in our field, right?

There are some people using breath works and meditation, you know,

someone that comes to mind as someone like a Joe Dispenza doing a lot of work in that area.

And one of the things that I have seen is that, and this is the way my brain works.

And this is just for the listener and me and you, because I mean,

I’m curious to learn from you about this.

But one of the things I saw is that some of these people, a very small minority

from what I can see are having some pretty amazing healing stories.

and I’ve seen this with psychedelics

and I’ve kind of spent the last year

doing every psychedelic on the planet.

You know, I’ve never been, well, a drug user

when I was young, but now I’m doing all these ceremonial things,

probing this area, and also lots of different meditation

techniques.

And what I’ve seen is some pretty amazing stuff,

but also that it was largely in the minority of these people.

So a lot of these people were just coming back to psychedelics

again and again and again.

It was like a pattern, very much like people trying diet after diet after diet and not

getting the results or coming back to these meditation techniques.

And so one of the things that I began to look at as I was like, well, as a naturopathic

principle, right?

Like one of our major principles is to first and always remove blocks.

And so one of the things that I was just kind of like, all right, well, maybe there’s a

block.

What is the block?

So, you know, it’s like you got the psychedelics.

They’re trying to move things.

You got the meditation, the breath work.

They’re trying to move things.

But it’s kind of like in the naturopathic world,

we have this thing where if you’re in a toxic environment

and you add in supplements and all that kind of stuff,

one of the first things we’ve learned is

get the person out of the toxic environment first,

then you can begin to make headway

in some of our treatments.

And so one of the things I started doing is going,

well, what’s the toxic environment perhaps

that is still blocking them from getting movement?

And one of the things that that then forced me

look at is development, child development, adolescent development, young adult development.

When we’re forming our first beliefs and definitions and stories about the world.

And so one of the things that I came to a hypothesis is I was like, well, we need to

clear that first.

If someone’s got a deep seated story, and I call these mud, by the way, misguided, unconscious

decisions, they’re misguided because we form them at times during development where we didn’t have the wisdom to know how the

maturity to make sense of them, they’re unconscious because they are there and we’re not aware that they’re controlling us to a

Large degree and their decisions because whether we were aware of them or not we did choose

to see ourselves or the world in a particular way.

And so one of the things that I began to do is look at this psychological mud and begin to want to clear it and

or to see if I could begin to clear it.

And we do know through evidence-based research

that a lot of what happens in the early psychology

around, of course, trauma and difficulty

is that the nervous system, here we go psychoneuro.

So the nervous system can get stuck in hyperfunction

or hypofunction.

So this isn’t just esoteric woo,

it is certainly where the psychology is beginning

to impact the nervous system.

And so that became my first sort of place

that I wanted to spend time.

And I started to look into all of the tools,

technologies, research that we have

to unwind our initial misguided unconscious decisions

or stories.

So this really fell Jannine right into the area

of identity and beliefs, not habits and behaviors.

So one of the first thing I was like,

I was like, it’s not habits and behaviors

because having to behaviors flow out of identity and beliefs

and where do these beliefs and stories come from,

well, they come from these misguided, unconscious decisions.

And so I started to use very powerful journaling techniques,

meditation techniques and breath work

for that initial clearing

so that I could get them out of the toxic environment

of their habitual thoughts and feelings.

Then adding in some of these feeling-based psychedelics

and/or Joe Dispenza type of meditations.

And then of course we do live in a 3D world

and a physical reality.

And so you have to take action.

And so this was the process that I began to explore.

And this is the process that I believe has begun

to unlock for a very large percent of the people I work with

who weren’t getting results with all the other stuff.

They’re starting to see results now.

And so just to repeat that, it’s one, a clearing

or a rewriting of the narratives, beliefs

and definitions that we hold.

And that means going backwards in time

and looking at where those came from.

That’s part one.

Part two is sort of a rewiring of the feeling state,

the emotions and getting us into these states of gratitude

and joy and acceptance.

And this is where some of the dispense-esque type

of meditation comes in.

And then there’s sort of this, be it till you see it

or as if principle type of action,

which we have a lot of research in this area

in terms of exposure therapy.

And this is sort of the way that I’ve been unwinding this,

starting with the emotions and having them guide us.

So if there’s a stuck emotion, one of the things

that I tend to teach my patients and clients

is that emotions are meant to be felt, not lived.

They’re not meant to be stuck.

And so when they’re stuck, that does point us

to potential issues with these misguided, unconscious

decisions that we need to unlock.

So if you’re a listener listening to this conversation

with me and Jannine and you’re wondering,

If this is you, all you have to do is look at your life and go, am I constantly having

repeated patterns in finance, in health and fitness, in personal relationships?

Am I constantly running into the same recurrent obstacles?

Am I feeling a stuck emotion that’s been in my life for a very long time, recurrent anger,

recurrent anxiety, recurrent depression, these kinds of things?

If so, it’s a good indication that you’re dealing with this misguided, unconscious decision

in your spiritual matrix that is causing you to not be able to get well or to live the life

that you’re meant to live. And so this is sort of the formula that I’ve been using. So I’m wondering,

you know, always when I talk to another practitioner, I’m always wanting to learn how they see this

and how they themselves are unwinding this process. 

JANNINE: Oh my gosh. I see it very similar to you. I base

a lot on my principles with Chinese medicine because that’s what I’m closest to, right?

Because it’s what I’ve used for years. So I often will look at when someone’s telling me

something, you know, all the emotions and even in myself. And I’m probably a really good example

because not too long ago, kind of right around when COVID hit, I was done. I was like, I’m sick

of this medicine. I’m not getting results. I don’t want to do this anymore. And so I had to take a

a look and go like, all right, what is this little tantrum coming from, right?

Like, what in my past?

And I wouldn’t have thought about it before that because the prior to that, I didn’t

realize that my thoughts create my reality.

I had no idea.

You know, I just thought I think things and that’s been right.

And so in terms of having to unwire, like undo it for myself and rewire myself, I kind

of take my patients for very similar processes as you.

I tend to kind of go off of what I did and literally look back and go, all right, when

When did you first start feeling this symptom that’s really overwhelming?

Or when did you first start experiencing, like you said, those patterns, let’s repeat

patterns.

And it’s fascinating to put the dots together with someone and then kind of go back through

and see if like what little symptoms kind of started then and what might have evolved

till now.

And because I do a lot of hormone replacement therapy and do work with hormones, I tend

to also look at like our period cycles and what was going on in that timeframe too, which

which is fascinating for me to kind of look through

and go like, oh, so your period then was really

heavy and crazy with lots of clots.

And you were angry.

You know?

DR. JADE: That’s so fascinating.

JANNINE: All the stuff.

I could geek out for hours on it, but ultimately, yeah,

my process is very similar to you,

looking at like the emotion, looking at the patterns.

I love to find patterns.

I love to help people find patterns.

So yeah, it’s pattern identification

and really guiding someone through versus like,

you know, a lot of people think,

and I don’t know if you get this, like, okay, I’m gonna work

within, it’s gonna be like a cognitive based therapist,

like we’re gonna talk, I’m like, nah, we’re gonna do a lot more

than we can talk.

I just wanna know some details

and I’m gonna help you find a pattern

and identify a pattern with me.

But yeah, that’s kinda how I work very similarly.

It’s fascinating to hear your, like what you’re up to.

I’m sure we have lots of intricate, like–

DR. JADE: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like we have a lot of overlap.

And I’m also with you in terms of this work,

it’s not, it’s very different than thought talk therapy, right?

It’s like, you know, one of the things I tell my clients

I’m like, look, if you cut your finger when you’re cutting

vegetables or something like that, there’s not much you need to do

other than make sure it’s clean and it’s going to heal itself.

And even if you didn’t, like, chances are it’s going to heal itself.

It has this self-healing sort of potential.

And for me, I look at the emotions and that kind of stuff.

If you make space, right, it’s kind of like if you cut your finger

and you just go about your business, you have a bad cut on your finger

and you just go about your business,

you don’t make any space to take care of it,

you’re gonna bleed out all over the place

and it’s gonna take forever for that wound to heal.

And perhaps it won’t, perhaps it’s gonna get infected.

The whole point of a physical wound

and the pain that comes along with it and all of that

is to make you pay attention

so you do something about it.

And so when I look at this work,

it’s not necessarily talk therapy

’cause that’s too logical, that’s conscious brain stuff.

Remember, these are misguided, unconscious decisions.

And so we logic, this is where I think talk therapy goes wrong a little bit, right?

You can’t logic your way out of something that is stuck in your nervous system or

stuck in your bio field if we’re going to get a little bit even more woo woo, right?

You can’t, so you have to go into the realm of the unconscious, which doesn’t

speak in logic and linear rationality.

It speaks in symbol, it speaks in metaphor, and it speaks in feeling.

And so a lot of what I’m doing, again, back to naturopathic principles,

which I’m very grateful for our training,

because for me, it’s putting them in nervous system states

that can, or brain states, altered conscious states

that allow their body to actually begin to pay attention

to the womb, the mental emotional suffering,

so that it can begin to heal.

And lo and behold, what you will find

is people will spontaneously go through these emotional states.

They’ll all of a sudden feel this tightness in their chest,

start feeling anger beginning to come up,

feel that move into sadness,

start to begin to cry and share.

And if they don’t have an emotional feeling,

they might shake or they might twitch

or they might go through a incessant yawning

or start coughing.

Sometimes they’ll even have a bowel movement or vomit

or, and this is this,

I used to just see all this is just physical.

And now I see it as this is the body moving.

And by the way, I don’t really need to say much to you

other than to get you in this altered consciousness,

mainly in my work through certain types of breathwork.

I use a breathwork that I develop called

breath enhanced emotional processing.

So all it really is is holotropic breathing,

if you know what that is, those of you listening,

but it’s a type of breathwork that then guides you

into look at the emotional processes in your body

and then give you space to sort of shed

that emotional energy.

And what’s really interesting about that is

Most of this work, you’re actually doing yourself

or just letting your body do,

and you get to just sit back and observe what it’s doing.

And then when you come out of that,

I use written exposure therapies

and certain types of journaling techniques

that help you also process a little bit more logically

and consciously.

And this to me, I really love that you said that

’cause it really speaks to for a long time,

I was like, what am I doing here?

I’m not really doing much other than putting them

in the state and their bodies doing it themselves. And for a while, they, I was like, Jade, like,

you’re not doing anything. Right? And then I remembered, you know, sort of our medicine. And I go,

Oh, this is very much like just, you know, getting them to not keep running through a field of

pothole so they don’t retwist their ankle. It’s like giving them the space to self-heal. One of the

things that we know, all we have all the evidence in the world, no one needs a study to tell us this.

If you injure yourself and cut yourself, your body will heal itself.

It has the potential to do that.

Well, it has the potential to do it in this work as well.

It’s just that none of us are giving ourselves the space to do it.

In times past, we used to be able to sit in silence.

We had much more reverence for the emotional processes in our body and not a whole lot of

cultural blocks telling us that if we’re a woman, we can’t feel anger or for a man,

we can’t feel sadness or these kinds of things.

And so this is where I think it begins.

And then of course, it starts to dovetail into a little bit of self guided what I’m trying to create.

That’s the next part.

But I’m really excited to hear you say that and wondering if especially, you know, I’m wondering,

because I don’t kill any does, my brother, who you know, does acupuncture.

I’ve never been much into it.

I think he’s given me two acupuncture treatments

in the last 20 years, right?

Since we got trained,

but I’m wondering if, you know,

now I’m like, you know, moving and supporting people

with the energetics that you use

through acupuncture and other things,

if you’re seeing that to be helpful in this realm.

JANNINE: You know, it’s like, it’s almost like a gateway.

It’s almost like we use it to open the doors

and then they don’t need it anymore.

And because I’m not in the office all the time now,

because I’m traveling a lot,

I’ve dropped down my amount of acupuncture.

So what’s happened is when I see them,

like once every few months when I’m in town,

that’s when we’re like, okay, let’s work on

what’s going on here, get the things flowing.

And then they’re back into working on

their programs again.

And so it’s like, it’s almost like it opens the door

for them again, or clears anything

that may be like a little gunk or a little litter along the way.

But truthfully, I do, I believe in acupuncture

for helping in certain situations and acute situations

for pain, but when we’re looking at the emotional,

I feel like we don’t need it as much as we’ve been taught

to think we need it.

We can do a lot of it on our own.

So essentially, I’m replacing myself as an acupuncturist

by teaching people to take care of themselves

and their emotions themselves and clear things themselves.

DR. JADE: Yeah, I love that.

And what tools are you using primarily then?

Is it similar breath work, meditation type stuff

or other energetic things like that?

JANNINE: Breath work mainly, some of the other stuff would be,

well, acupressure tapping.

So EFT tapping is a lot of tapping in the practice too.

And then a lot of times it’s visualization.

and thinking through things too.

So that’s kind of like my main ones, yeah.

DR. JADE: Yeah, and one of the things,

here’s one thing I’d love to get your take on too.

I use a lot of what I might call a dimensional consciousness.

For those of you who are familiar with maybe

internal family systems,

it’s very similar, internal family systems

for those of you listening who don’t know what that is.

It’s basically a technique, a therapeutic technique

that essentially treats your emotions

as sort of like separate psychic entities

that you can dialogue with, right?

So it’s giving room for anger to express itself and quote,

coming to the living room of your conscious mind

and be able to express itself and give sadness,

room to express itself.

So one of the things I do is I refer to this as sort of

this dimensional consciousness that we can sort of

objectify different aspects of ourselves.

So we certainly can do that with our child self.

So there’s a little JD that I can dialogue with, right?

And he has his histories and his ways and his personality.

And some of those personalities are dysfunctional

and some of those personalities are really useful.

Like he can be really fun for me

and I can tap into him when I wanna have some joy

and some laughter in my life.

But he also can be, you know,

throw some temper tantrums and have a little bit of anger

and have some of these stuck fear-based responses.

And dialoguing with him allows me to see

this sort of psychic personality of mine

that is alive within my greater sort of consciousness.

And I do the same thing with emotions

and same thing even with body parts.

when my mom was diagnosed with kidney cancer, one of the things that we did is we had her sort

of objectify her kidneys and began to see them as a benevolent friend that is functioning with her

that needs her attention and her love and that she could dialogue with. And so this

dimensional consciousness work is really interesting, especially when you’re dealing with your emotions,

because I do think because emotions are so unconscious,

and you know, and they’re in kind of unconscious processes,

we need ways to dialogue with them.

And so there’s a socialization that you can have

around your emotional states and also certain psychic entities

in your past could even do this in your future.

And by the way, in case you all are wondering,

there’s actually a lot of good research in this particular area

in terms of being able to dialogue with your future self

through future authoring, writing, and things like that.

These things have been documented,

but this is another technique, you know,

as the listeners trying to understand

what we’re talking about here.

It’s another technique that can be really powerful

in helping people work through some of these processes.

And so that’s another area that I’m interested in your take on

and if there’s anything there that you’re using

or familiar with.

It’s been an interesting, you know,

sort of piece of my work now.

JANNINE: You know, I’ve dabbled.

Let’s be honest, I’ve dabbled in that area

and haven’t really dove into it as much

as trying to work more on the level of talking

with people where they’re at and looking at that.

Whereas trying to visualize their other entities,

I’ll be honest, I haven’t really got there

with everybody.

I think there’s been a few, but yeah,

I’m on the cusp of that one.

I’ve been on the other yet.

DR. JADE: Yeah, and then another area we could potentially go into

and then wherever you want to go from that is that

part of the thing that I think would be interesting

maybe for the listeners to sort of consider

with this work because it can seem a little bit out there

in many ways until you begin to look at some of the things

that, and some of this is controversial in the science,

but in my, from my perspective, well proven.

And this is the bio field, right?

And so the bio field, I think, is sort of the go

between obviously someone like Eugenie’s been working

with this and energies for a long time

because of your acupuncture.

But I’m starting to understand,

I think how this translates

and some of this new science around structured water

and exclusion zone water in the body

and this idea of the quantum field.

And I’ll kind of go slow here

because I think it’ll be interested for the listener

and then see where you wanna go with this.

But one of the things we now know is that physicists

And most physicists who do quantum is becoming a buzzword

that is always somewhat of a challenge and difficult.

And even quantum physicists will tell you

they don’t quite understand quantum physics.

And certainly I am no physicist.

And so this is an area that I tread very lightly in.

But one of the things that I think my perception

around the quantum sort of field

and what we might call the void

is this idea of potential and possibility.

It is sort of the place where all potential

and possibility resides.

And if anyone who’s confused about that,

that we have study after study after study

showing that essentially we humans are mostly empty space.

If you go into an atom, it is mostly empty space.

It is a world of frequencies and vibrations.

It’s not a world of matter.

And so one of the things that’s beginning to change

is the idea of materialism, which has dominated science

and still does, is that the brain and material matter

creates consciousness and energetics.

This new sort of idea that I believe quantum physics

is pointing us towards is that actually consciousness

is everywhere and it sort of permeates everything

and it is what creates matter.

So this idea of materialism and brain creating consciousness

versus the idea that consciousness is actually coalescing into matter.

And if we take that stand, now of course we don’t know that that’s right.

So, but if we take this alternate hypothesis, it does open up an entirely new way

to begin to dialogue with and work with the human body and the human condition.

And so then we can essentially say, well, that’s the case as,

Let’s say the quantum field begins to coalesce

and congeal into human form,

then we have this go-between state

that is the bio field, our energetic field

that essentially informs our physical makeup.

And what I believe we actually have

or on the cusp of right now is that we even,

I think, are beginning to understand

how the bio field begins to translate

into biochemistry and physiology.

And this has to do with the new science of water

and structured water in particular.

And so just briefly for the listener,

we think of water as three phases, right?

We think of it as a gas, a solid and a liquid.

Well, when water is interacting with our biological systems,

hydrophilic systems or systems that like water, right?

We have this new form of water

And it’s kind of like a viscous water.

It forms almost like a crystalline pattern next to our biology.

And what we see is that this water layer has energetics to it, almost like a battery and

may even have a form of organization to it that organizes our physiology and our biochemistry.

By the way, our mitochondria, which lots of people know how powerful mitochondria are

are partly involved with creating this water.

But I do believe this is,

the only reason I bring this up

is because it may be the first time

that anyone’s heard this sort of conversation.

And one of the things I just wanted to make sure

that we draw is like, okay, well,

how does this energetic translate actually

into physiology, perhaps, and coalesce into,

let’s say these energetic centers

of the bio field into physiology,

it’s probably coming from water.

and this new understanding of water as an energy relay system

and an energy system in general.

So now we could say the quantum field coalesces

into the bio field, which translates into biochemistry

through the water layers sort of in the body,

which then begins to express itself

in a physiological state.

And so I do believe this is actually the science

that explains how emotions and how this work

that we are doing is translating into actual physiology.

JANNINE: I agree, but what Jade’s getting at

is like thinking about how you’re vibing,

like your good vibes affect the water you’re gonna drink,

affect the water in your body,

affect your cells in the body,

and affect the people around you,

which is like, I don’t know,

I could go deep into that,

but like also what’s your take on even like the 5G

how that jacks with our bodies and energy. 

DR. JADE: Yeah, that’s an interesting thing. These non-native EMFs,

right? Because if we are, if we are giving off an electromagnetic field and we certainly know

that these different energy centers are giving off certain electromagnetic frequencies that are

unique to them, what are these non-native EMFs doing? Things like Wi-Fi and stuff like that.

You know what’s interesting about that? I am one of these people that to me, I don’t see it

as necessary as scary as a lot of people see it right now because I go, if it was that dangerous,

it’s certainly not, you know, toxic to the point where we’re all going to drop dead from it immediately.

And also, I think that we have inherent ability, right? For example, let’s say we know that if you

come into the room and all of us who are listening to this, you know, let’s say Janine comes into the

room and she’s angry or she’s sad, we’re all going to feel that, right? We’re going to feel the energetics

of her coming into the room. At the same time, we can set our energetics differently. So,

yes, we can be affected by that. But we also could be like, you know what, I’m not going

to allow myself to be affected by that. We can change that frequency in a sense. We have the ability

to do that. And so, from my perspective, I feel like our electromagnetic field is can be built up

and be almost like a force field against that stuff. But I do think when we are weak, when we’re

We’re not in the sun, we’re not eating well,

when we’re not doing these things.

By the way, all this is theoretical.

Perhaps these things are permeating our bio fields

and having destructive capacities.

But part of me goes, I don’t know that that would be

a smart way for the body to survive, right?

You know, for us to have evolved.

So I think we have the ability to adapt to these things.

In the same way that we might choose not to get caught up

an emotional turmoil of Janine when she walks into the room.

I think there’s something perhaps to be said for that, but like you, I’m paying very close

attention to the idea.

And I do believe we have some preliminary data showing that these things can be destructive

to our energetics and perhaps our physiology.

But I’m also one of these people that thinks that fear in particular, I’m one of these

people that goes, emotional toxicity might be one of the major things, if not the major

thing that makes us susceptible to disease.

And I’m using things like blue zones and things like that to correlate here because obviously

they all eat different things.

Some of them drink alcohol and do all kinds of other stuff.

Some of them have gone through incredibly traumatic events like think about Okinawa and Japan

and some of these blue zones there that they had to go through, you know, a mass traumas.

And yet they still have this.

So what’s the difference?

To me, it is the way that they live in alignment, enjoy, and gratitude, and they have purpose

and meaning inside their cultures.

And I believe these things are protective.

And so for me, when I look at this kind of stuff, I go, well, we have a lot of areas

in the world that are doing things that perhaps aren’t the healthiest, that don’t seem to

be affected.

Why?

Maybe this is an answer.

JANNINE: Yeah.

It’s a great question.

It’s a great question.

It’s kind of like developing like your resilience

to outside vibration.

Let’s put it that way.

I have a question about structured water

because there’s a lot of people talking

about drinking structured water.

What’s your take on that?

DR. JADE: So my understanding is that that’s not possible.

There’s a way to do things for water,

or board texting and things like that,

but you can’t create structured water

to my understanding in that way.

It occurs when it is in interaction

with biological substances,

substances that like water, substances like proteins

and nucleic acids and things like that.

So structured water, if you’re going to get it,

it would come from eating fruit or something.

Then maybe you’re getting the structured water from that,

But, and your mitochondria make this sort of water.

So, my understanding about exclusion zone water

or structured water, and of course,

the vocabulary is getting mixed here.

Now, what I’m saying is exclusion zone water

as studied by Pollack and others,

you know, there were people who were doing this research

way before him, that is all about

when this water comes in contact

with biological substances and forms these

exclusion zones, builds up these sort of layers of a fourth phase of water.

He does, by the way, in Pollock’s work, if you read his work, he has shown that very

narrow ones can form next to metals transiently.

But I can’t imagine that you’re going to be able to put water into your glass beaker,

your water bottle or your stainless steel water bottle and drink it from that point of view.

Now whether or not certain energized waters, vortexed waters, waters with particular minerals

are easier to be made into structured water, I don’t know.

But I think that that whole thing right now is marking hype.

It certainly could be that I am not well versed enough and I would love if anyone’s listening

to this and has an answer to this that’s better than mine, I would love to be corrected on

this.

But it doesn’t make actually, Jeanine, it doesn’t make sense to me scientifically that

that that would be able to be created based on what I know

about Pollock’s work and the work that they were doing.

I do think it’s perhaps a mix up in terminology.

Structured water is being used,

that terminology being used for a lot of different things.

And we also have a whole new sort of vocabulary.

We’re gonna all have to learn on water in general

because we’re learning an awful lot about water

and how mitochondria, the water that it creates in

is creating deuterium depleted water,

is creating this exclusion zone water.

And these are all things that are very new areas.

And with very new areas, they can be exciting.

It’s dangerous though, because anything new

is usually overemphasized and sometimes talked about

in definitive terms prior to completely understanding that.

And I see this, I think, happening.

It’s right for this, right?

Because we now live in the world of social media

where everyone just gets on and says things

whether they have an expertise or not.

Now I have been studying this pretty intensely

for the last three years or so,

and I still don’t understand it.

So that tells you something that just reading a book on it

and then getting on social media and talking about this,

that’s not what I think we need here.

I think we need some caution,

but I do think there’s something perhaps here

that we need to pay attention to,

but to answer your question,

I don’t think that you can drink a structured water

out of your water bottle in that way.

JANNINE: I wonder about that.

Yeah, it’s in my mind too.

I was like, hmm, I’m gonna do get asked a lot about it.

You know, when we start talking about energetic fields,

you know, and structured water

and all kinds of different things.

And when we go off that conversation,

the structured water one always kind of pops in.

I think that– 

DR. JADE: Yeah, and we’re in,

and we’re in muddy water, you know, to,

to, you know, pun intended, I guess.

We’re in muddy water anyway in this whole realm.

We all have to be careful in my mind not to get so far into the art of this that we are

not making sure the science is there as well.

So it’s okay in my mind to kind of peek over the cliff and feel around and make speculations.

But right now, this whole conversation largely that you and I have had is a speculative conversation.

Now, of course, people like you and me are not afraid, never have been afraid to have

those conversations and have never been afraid to use these technologies prior to understanding

them fully because we want to get results.

But I will say we have to be very careful here and make sure that we don’t go off running

and making mistakes in terms of, and I do think a lot of people in our field are beginning

to do that.

They’re going a little bit far with it where I don’t, I just think all we need to say is,

hey, check it out, Janine, check it out, Jay, check it out.

Like everyone, you know, in this space.

This is interesting. Let’s see if there’s anything to it. Let’s not make definitive statements

quite yet.

JANNINE: Yeah. Yeah. I think I would absolutely agree with that. The same thing goes along the line

of some of the bio field work with like, have you tried any of that stuff out?

DR. JADE: Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you know, I have a halo device that puts out a pulse electromagnetic

field and have different different frequencies. And because this is one of the things that’s

interesting, right? None of us have been trained, you know, as much as we’re all now being coming,

very aware of frequencies and electromagnetic fields. This is not my training. In fact,

it’s so not my training that as I delve into this, I get completely confused and have yet to,

after studying this stuff for three to five years, still can’t necessarily explain fully to myself

and my patients how these things are working because it’s not my field. And we’re relying a lot

on engineers who are, this is their field, who also don’t have a medical background. And so there

is a lot that is getting lost in translation with these things because the engineers are the ones

who understand these things, not the practitioners so much. And so we are really in, you know, again,

muddy waters, that being said, I can tell you, I have a friend who raises horses and had a horse

come up lame, which we all know can be pretty dangerous.

Like, you know, essentially the equivalent of a human twisting their ankle can be a real

problem for a horse.

And she has fallen in love with my halo device.

As a matter of fact, she still has it.

She will not give it back to me, basically, because she’s like, this thing is amazing.

She also got kicked by one of her horses and, you know, really like kicked in the hand,

can imagine and probably fractured her wrist and used this halo device and was just like,

this is this thing’s amazing. And so, you know, it’s an end of one. And certainly I haven’t

noticed much, but I’ve had no big injuries. But, you know, we know that these things have

been used. We know as far back as the 50s, right? They were using magnets and fields

to regrow, you know, frog legs, you know, and we know that, you know, certain, certain

animals have this ability themselves, like salamanders can regenerate limbs and things

like that. So we know there is a lot here and a lot of science here. We just, I certainly

don’t have and I don’t think the medicine yet has a full understanding of, you know,

which frequencies, you know, at what doses and which, you know, you know, all of that

kind of stuff I think still needs to be worked out. So again, we kind of are in interesting

and interesting place. How about you? Do you feel like you have, you know, a really good

understanding of this stuff yet? Not yet, right? Yeah. Me neither.

JANNINE: I’ve tried it, you know, I’m like, I feel nice and relaxed.

It feels cool.

I kind of felt like the amp coil I felt like I was rocking during the treatment.

I’m like, okay, it’s relaxing, you know, but in the difference between using that and

like a harmony kind of table or one of the other things, I’m like, I can’t really tell

you the difference or like being in my own house with the music cranked up and, and you

know, having the amplifier with the, the Hertz coming out of me and like, it kind of feels

same.

Maybe.

I don’t know.

I haven’t really noticed it. I mean, ultimately, what I would say is that once again, these kind

of things have people back to the paradigm of looking for something outside of them for help.

DR. JADE: Yeah, very well said. I was literally going to say that I think we have to, and this goes,

this is across the board, isn’t it? You know, I think, of course, we need drugs and

surgeries and things like, of course, we don’t want, and course supplements can do well, but

I also think that’s exactly right. I think the naturopathic principles hold true. Remove the obstacles

to healing. Remove the obstacles to fulfillment. Your body is telling you in the same way when you

get injured or cut yourself or sprained your ankle like we talked about. It’s the same thing in the

mental emotional space. And I think all of these modalities are incredibly powerful perhaps,

but only if we can clear off the mud and we get this movement happening. And here’s the maybe

the final thing I say and we can kind of wrap this up. But one of the things I’ll say as a final

thing is that, and this is going to be depressing. So I hope everyone doesn’t just like throw, you

know, throw their mobile device across the room and they hear this. One of the things, Jannine,

that I oftentimes marvel at is this idea. We’re in this really weird place where people are

acting like they’re going to live forever. Like, you know, life has a 100% fatality rate. There is

no indication in my mind looking at any of the sciences, despite all the longevity books and all

and all the people talking about that,

that we are going to be able to stop aging

and keep ourselves from getting sick and dying.

Like that’s the human condition.

We don’t have anyone who’s ever not aged, not got old,

not died, not gotten sick and died.

And so I know that’s depressing,

but this is another final thing that I wanna say.

Some of this to me and why I’ve gotten to this new work

is because to me, what I see is oftentimes

a lot of people fearful of the human experience.

And to me, I want my patients, whether I can get them healthy or not, because you and I

have both been in this field a lot a long time.

We’ve watched people die.

We’ve seen illness not get better despite all the things.

I’ve seen vegans and vegetarians die of cancer.

I’ve seen carnivore, people die of cancer.

I’ve seen keto, people die of cancer.

I’ve seen them all.

I’ve seen happy, healthy people go from heart attacks.

I mean, when you really get down to them, I’m like, I don’t know why that happened.

There’s no rhyme or reason.

I just know that we all have to go at some point.

So part of me goes, a lot of the work then comes in

making sure you matter and make a difference

and live a fulfilled life and not carry all this mental,

emotional trauma and drama and trial and tribulations,

you know, through this.

Part of me thinks we’re here for three reasons

and three reasons only we’re here to learn,

we’re here to teach and we’re here to love.

None of those, we can do all of those things

while being unhealthy, while being exposed to EMFs,

while eating junk food, while we can do all those things.

So in a sense, I go, maybe that’s more what it’s about.

And maybe all this other stuff, it’s important,

but maybe staying healthy is just so we

can stay vibrant and healthy and vital long enough

to do the spiritual learning and teaching and loving

that we’re here to do.

And so that’s kind of where I come at it from now.

And I know that might not be a comforting thing

for people to hear, but I do think it’s important

because at some point I am gonna lie down,

it’s just gonna be me.

No one’s gonna be holding my hand, maybe they will,

but I gotta pass over by myself.

And I want to be proud of what I’ve accomplished

and have learned the lessons and lived a good story.

JANNINE: Absolutely, absolutely.

I will say it, I do think that’s what this world’s about

and in our experience here.

And I think that in the realm of the anti-aging biohacking,

being, you know, university, yes, I’ve dove an in full on a lot of things, but at the same

time, I’ve never really came to the conclusion that any of this is going to have me living,

you know, to 200 years of age.

At some point, I will die.

And it heck, I’d like to enjoy my life instead of being completely obsessed by all the things

I need to do to prolong it and miss out on my life while I’m trying to do that.

DR. JADE: 100% couldn’t agree more.

JANNINE: Crazy, it’s crazy.

So let’s tell folks about Next Level Human,

all of the offerings you have,

how they can work with you,

because you have your four purposes

that I didn’t even get to ask you to share with people,

’cause we just dove in.

But, you know, I know there are four things

and four reasons you have us here

that you believe we’re here for.

And so I’ll kind of share all of your–

DR. JADE: Yeah, you know, Next Level Human

really came out of this work, right?

this idea of like, you know, being able to, you know, do your life in a way that helps

you matter and make a difference. I do believe that most people want that. And we have four

jobs every human has, right? So that is health and fitness. Yes, we have to stay healthy,

attain and maintain our health and fitness. We have finances, which a lot of people don’t

love the idea of that. But we have to earn and manage a living, even if you’re homeless

out on the street, you have to procure food and find shelter. We have personal relationships.

We must manage other people, give and receive love, you know, all that kind of stuff.

And then to me, the most important thing is purpose and meaning, fulfillment and doing

our work here, making a distinction between our job is how we make money and our work

is how we make a difference.

And so next level human is really about helping people live their optimal life through the

mastery of these four jobs.

And a big part of that actually comes from doing the work, that three part process of

going in and using events and coaching and this breath work and meditation and journaling

as primary tools, although there’s others, to begin to help us make sense of what our

suffering has been and turn that suffering into a source of meaning to take our mental

emotional pain and make it a path to purpose, to take our hurt and make it as a way to help.

And this to me is what next level humans all about.

So if you’re somebody who’s dealing with illness

and repeated patterns in weight loss

and all of that kind of stuff,

or repeated patterns in finance

or repeated patterns in relationships and things like that

and just want to elevate your life

to get healthier, to live more purposeful.

Next level human really bridges all of those things.

We run events, we do high-end coaching.

And to me, it’s the most amazing thing that I’ve done.

I’ve seen more changes in individuals doing this work

in terms of their health, their fitness,

their ability to even people who have mastering finances

that always struggled, and that’s the work.

And you can find out more there on my podcast,

Next Level Human.

You can find me on social media @JTita

and @NextLevelHuman.

And yeah, feel free to reach out, DM me.

It’s an interesting world of social media now

where we can get in touch with each other.

So any of you listening to this

that wanna ask me questions,

I do my best to answer those.

Sometimes it takes a little bit to get to them,

but yeah, so anyone who’s interested in checking all that out,

I would love to have you as a part of that.

JANNINE: Love it, Jade.

Such good stuff.

And I know personally, a couple of folks

who’ve been through your programs as well

who have wonderful things to say

and you’re doing good work and gosh, keep it up, man.

It’s good stuff.

It’s inspiring for all of us folks.

looking outside going, “Hmm, yeah, he’s onto it.

He’s onto it there.”

DR. JADE: Well, I so appreciate you, Jeanine.

Thank you for your work.

And, you know, one thing I’ll say that I just, I love,

you know, you and I went through

naturopathic medical school, right?

One of the first things that we learned

is doctor as teacher.

And so, you and I both share that.

And so thank you for teaching

and giving me a place to teach as well.

DR. JADE: My pleasure, my pleasure.

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