Ep 580: Nature’s Medicine for You and Your Pet with Angela Ardolino

In this episode of the Health Fix Podcast, Dr. Jannine Krause sits down with Angela Ardolino, a trailblazer in holistic pet wellness and a passionate advocate for animals. As a Plant & Mushroom Medicine Educator, formulator, and speaker, Angela brings over 25 years of experience helping pet parents discover the healing power of nature.

Her journey into natural wellness began after her own rheumatoid arthritis diagnosis in 2013. Refusing to accept a lifetime of pharmaceuticals, Angela dove deep into the worlds of cannabis, herbalism, and functional mushrooms healing herself and transforming how she cared for her animals.

Today, Angela leads several ventures, including CBD Dog Health and House of Alchemy, LLC, that promote holistic pet care rooted in education, compassion, and science.

Dr. Krause and Angela dive into the endocannabinoid system, full-spectrum extracts vs isolates, and the power of real food, adaptogens, and medicinal mushrooms to restore balance in both humans and animals. They also explore why intention and quality control matter so much in herbal products and how holistic pet care can help animals live longer, happier lives.

Whether you’re a devoted pet parent, a holistic health enthusiast, or someone curious about natural medicine, this episode will open your eyes to the profound connection between your health and the well-being of the animals you love.

Resources From The Show:

• CBD Dog Health
• Your Natural Dog Podcast
• Angela Ardolino’s Website
• Follow Angela Ardolino on Instagram: @angelaardolino

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Podcast Transcript

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Herbal Healing for Pets
06:45 Angela’s Journey with Animals and Herbs
10:07 The Power of Cannabis in Veterinary Care
12:46 Real Food vs. Processed Pet Food
15:51 Understanding the Endocannabinoid System
18:51 The Importance of Full Spectrum Extracts
21:47 Navigating the World of Cannabinoids
24:51 The Role of Adaptogens in Healing
27:50 Quality Control in Herbal Products
30:38 The Science Behind Mushroom Extracts
37:41 The Quest for Better Pet Nutrition
41:49 Understanding Medicinal Mushrooms for Pets
44:55 The Importance of Quality Control in Pet Products
48:49 The Role of Intent in Natural Remedies
52:48 The Power of Cannabis and Mushrooms in Healing
59:33 Innovative Approaches to Senior Pet Care
01:04:53 Navigating the Pet Health Industry
01:10:26 Outro THFP 2022.mp3

Jannine Krause (00:02.097)
Angelina Ardalino, welcome to the HealthFix Podcast.

Angela Ardolino (00:06.254)
Thanks for having me.

Jannine Krause (00:08.087)
my goodness, this is a long time coming just because we have a love for animals that we’ve shared and then we also have a love for herbs. And here in this podcast, I can’t wait to talk about what you’re up to, how you’ve helped my little critter calm himself down, which is a big deal because he’s a hyper golden and how we’re learning new things about the skin and what we can do with this. So.

Out of all of this, you know, I’ve seen on Instagram, I’ve seen on your websites, you’ve got stories of how you’ve helped certain critters along the way. And it sounds like you’ve got to have a couple soul animals and things of that nature. Tell us like, were you always interested in herbs since a little kid or did this start to come about because of the dogs or how did your interest in nature and herbs and growing your own food, all that stuff come about?

Angela Ardolino (00:59.758)
thought a great question of where it started, but yes, I attribute animals for saving my life. Basically, all I did was spend all my time outside with my animals. I actually wasn’t allowed to have pets inside, which was okay, because I spent all my time outside with them. So yes, like when I look at everything, compare myself to my sisters, everything, it was all because I was outside with my animals.

But in 2015, I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, which made no sense to me because I literally had a media company, which all I did was talk about natural living and getting toxins out of her life. I thought I had already done that. How is this possible? Well, it because I was a workaholic, stress all the time, working all the time, doing too much. I gave myself this autoimmune disease.

Which the good thing is, is that means I could reverse it. That means I can get rid of it. So that’s what, you know, that sucked, but at the same time I can do something about it. And at this very same time, my soul dog, Odie, who was nine years old, he was a miniature Schnauzer, also stopped going up the stairs, wouldn’t get up on the couch anymore. So I knew he was starting to experience pain. And that’s when small dogs turned into seniors is about age nine or 10.

he was diagnosed with degenerative myelopathy, which is kind of the same thing as rheumatoid arthritis. And when that happened to me, I was, like most people, prescribed a conventional drug called Humira, which of course when I, and I don’t take pharmaceuticals,

I believe pharmaceuticals need to exist. They’re great for emergencies situations, but they don’t get to the root cause and just suppress symptoms. So I knew that I wanted to get to the root and they prescribed Humira, which has already been linked to lymphoma and I wasn’t gonna do that. And I found FICO, full extract of cannabis oil and tried that. I will never forget, that was 10 years ago now and I will never forget.

Angela Ardolino (03:19.988)
I knew I was in pain, not until I took that tincture did I literally feel it leave my body. And then I was like, I remember what this feels like. Now I’m pain free and why the hell is this prohibited and restricted? So taking that tincture made me instantly an advocate and want to know more. So I lived in Florida, which it wasn’t a medically legal there yet. So

I fought like crazy to get it legalized there. It took us four years to do it. On top of that, I literally sold my business and threw myself into the cannabis industry. I wanted to know more. I told you I had a media company. So I immediately found a group of moms who were treating their kids, brain tumors, cancer, seizures with cannabis. So I started reporting on those stories and things like that.

and ended up selling my business, throwing myself into the industry, hired the best consultant in the country, traveled everywhere with him, learned how to source seeds, how to grow medicine, how to extract it, how to preserve it, what the different cannabinoid profiles do, and then in 2016, the University of Vermont School of Medicine started their first cannabis program.

at the School of Medicine for its study for therapeutic uses in biology. And they literally reached out to my consultant and said, hey, do you know anybody we want to kill our inaugural class? And he was like, yes, I do. And so I got to attend that program, which blew my mind. That’s where I learned about the endocannabinoid system and that all animals have them. Fish to our dogs, lizards, birds. And it’s a lot like ours.

We do have some additional research on dogs. They are more sensitive. They have more receptors than we do. That’s why they’re a little bit more sensitive to THC. But all the same things that benefit us benefit our animals also. So that’s where I was like, okay. My favorite things, cannabis and dogs. And I was like, this is gonna be my career. This is what I’m going to concentrate on and do. I also at the time,

Angela Ardolino (05:42.136)
had a rescue farm where I rescued farm animals and old dogs with problems. So I really started to concentrate on that. So I had a lot of relationships with veterinarians where they would get a dog where, you know, they thought there was nothing else that they could do. it either was a pet parent who was like, what else can I do? Or the dog was being euthanized because they thought there was nothing else they could do. I’d get the dog and I would totally change its diet to a real food diet.

take it off its 10 to 12 to 15 different pharmaceuticals and creams and shampoos and sprays and literally bring these animals back to homeostasis. And they were always old and diseased and I was still able to bring them back to homeostasis. So being able to do that over and over and over again was pretty incredible. I had this education but when I went to the holistic veterinarians I said, hey,

Do you know about the endocannabinoid system? Nope, but we believe in it. I’m like, what do you wanna know? I’ll teach you. They’re like, how are you using it? What are your cases? What does it work on? Well, it works on everything. And the reason that it works on everything is because the endocannabinoid system is our master system in our bodies. It is in control of all of the other systems. If you treat just a respiratory issue without also

Jannine Krause (06:52.063)
you

Angela Ardolino (07:06.968)
dealing with the endocannabinoid system, you literally can’t get back to homeostasis. It might get better, but you won’t get back to completely balanced. So what’s so messed up about this is that our doctors and veterinarians aren’t taught anything about this system. And so that’s why we never really can.

Jannine Krause (07:24.991)
true.

Angela Ardolino (07:29.848)
get to, as you know, if we don’t get to the root of the problem, we’re never going to solve the issue. We have to get to the root and conventional medicine usually just suppresses symptoms and doesn’t get to the root. So we never get back to true health. So being able to do this over and over and over again at my own farm with my own cases, and I formulated all of my.

I formulated all my products in 2016, but couldn’t release them until 2018. So literally had two years to test them nonstop. My, I bought a groom shop that, like I said before, that was, we’d get on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday, 75 dogs a day. Yeah, I was, it was very busy and it had been there for 30 years and then I’ve totally changed its reputation. So we would take sick dogs, old dogs, aggressive dogs, any dogs.

Jannine Krause (08:13.279)
Holy cow.

Angela Ardolino (08:24.364)
So we were very busy and 85 % of those dogs coming through that shop were suffering. They all were suffering. And I’d ask pet parents, know, you know, are you aware of this lump on his leg? Are you aware of this, you know, yeast infection? Are you aware of the ear infection? Are you aware of this rash? And they’d like, yes, I don’t, don’t know what to do. We’ve been, I’ve spent thousands of dollars. Nothing ever gets any better.

And then here I was going, try this, let’s do this, change the food. And it was that simple. Sometimes not that simple because as you know, when you suppress the symptoms and turn off the immune system, when it comes back on, there’s usually a flare up and some things you need to deal with. But for the most part, it worked every time. Real food. This is like something I say all the time. Mother nature provides us with all the food and medicine that we need.

and we really can bring the sickest person or animal back to homeostasis if we give them real food and real plant and fungi medicine.

Jannine Krause (09:30.867)
I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. I have, you know, a very interesting story about this. My dog, the golden retriever I currently have right now, had chronic ear infections. We knew it was the food, of course. I was busy with work, couldn’t cook for him as much as I wanted to. Pulled him off of all of the foods. He lost weight. He got healthy. I took him to the vet because we were going back and forth about the ear thing and I said, hey, I got rid of the ear thing. It was, you know, it was his food. Well, here’s what happened.

They took him away from me while they saw him in the office, because he had lost so much weight. And they said, golden retrievers don’t lose this much weight. Well, being a doctor, I know what happens when you take a pet in the visit away. They thought I had abused him. And then they said, well, we’re going to have to look at the labs and see how he’s doing. And I’m sitting there going, I came in just for a double check that you could see that his ears are better.

Angela Ardolino (10:23.222)
And PS, I’m a doctor.

Jannine Krause (10:26.513)
I know what’s going on right now that you think that I abused my dog. And so, you know, it was kind of horrifying and eye-opening for me to see because this was actually considered, quote, holistic doctor office. And so I will never go there again. And because we were made to feel like we had abused our dog and he was healthier. And so at that point, I said, the heck with this, I’m never going to do that again. I am now going to work on herbals and different things with them.

Angela Ardolino (10:38.434)
Huh?

Jannine Krause (10:55.103)
And you know, haven’t, this is the first time I’ve actually shared this story because my background, you more helping people, but like how you found me and what you said was so beautiful was that, yes, I feel like our dogs go through what we’re going through. And at that same time, I was having more gut issues. There was different things that I was experiencing. And so, you know, we changed, we changed up things with him. We worked on, you know, me slowing down with food and making sure that I was eating, actually eating versus not eating because of being busy.

And so, you know, looking at this and seeing it, you know, full circle, like you’re explaining, like it is whole food for the pets, but we are kind of convinced that we need to buy pet food. It’s like food.

Angela Ardolino (11:35.874)
Nope, food, real food is real food is real food. And please don’t ask me where is the research. Are you kidding me? It’s real food, it’s real plants, it’s real mushrooms, it’s the original medicine, not the alternative, but you can’t patent food.

Plants or fungi and make a billion dollars off of it. So what we do is we invent change pull out certain isolates components that worked bioactives out of that food plant or mushroom and make Medicine out of it. But when we do that, there’s always a side effect because the body doesn’t know what the hell it is

The body doesn’t recognize a synthetic isolate. So what you do is you cause the body to go in overdrive to figure out what this is. The liver has to work on it. It depletes our glutathione. It literally takes away all of our defenses. It disrupts our gut where our immune system literally lives. By the way, it’s called the endocannabinoid system. They’ve already changed the name to the endocannabinoid ohm because it incorporates the microbiome.

There are receptors all over our organs, everywhere, all through our body for this endocannabinoid system. And if our receptors aren’t producing these endocannabinoids, that means we’re off balance. And it just so happens this beautiful plant called the cannabis plant literally produces phyto cannabinoids, which fill those deficiencies and bring us back to homeostasis. All disease is based on inflammation of something and that’s its main

driver is to get rid of inflammation, systemic inflammation throughout the body. And that’s what it does. That’s why it seems like it does and helps everything because everything’s based in inflammation. But that’s what the problem is. It’s the biggest threat to every pharmaceutical drug out there. Pain meds. Pain meds are made to interact with just one of the five signaling pathways for pain. Cannabis.

Angela Ardolino (13:44.278)
Immediately, all of them, all five of them, best painkiller ever with no side effects. It’s not going to destroy your gut lining. It’s not going to deplete glutathione. It’s going to help those things also. So it’s always, every time I see something, read something, can’t figure out why something is, why do they do it that way? It’s always about the damn money. It’s always about them and their profits and making more money.

not about actually healing you and getting you back to homeostasis.

Jannine Krause (14:17.887)
It’s definitely money driven and something that you come to really realize in every industry, just as much the vet, the dental, the health, it’s every industry. Now, one of the things that I’m very curious about, and I get a lot of questions from my patients, is about the different types of CBD. And CBDN versus CBDG versus, you

And a lot of people are, I think right now, you know, we’ve gotten to the point where folks know that CBD and cannabis products can make a huge difference in their health. think, yeah, and now you gotta go find sourcing, you know, and that’s definitely something that anytime someone pitches something to me, I’m always gonna look and see where they’re sourcing. But then the other thing is, cause you know, a lot of people are gonna think like, there’s some stoner and no offense to Northern California, but they’re imagining, you know, weed California.

Angela Ardolino (14:57.366)
And now you gotta go find a good one.

Jannine Krause (15:17.151)
and they’re imagining something like that, or they’ve seen the Sons of Anarchy show or whatever, and they’re imagining something like that. truthfully, the folks that I have met who are working on cultivating the cannabis plants and even growing mushrooms are the most scientifically fascinating folks I’ve ever seen in my life. They just know so much. And so one of the things that a lot of people ask me about, because once we get past the, no, it’s not gonna get too high unless you want that particular part of the plant.

Angela Ardolino (15:45.144)
Right.

Jannine Krause (15:47.023)
the CBD ends in the G’s and the A and all of those different things. Can you help us to kind of, you know, look at it, but also look at it in the lens of like what does best for animals and dogs in particular? Like is there a better, and I don’t even know how to like describe it. This is my naive, you know, derivative. Is that what we say? What do we say?

Angela Ardolino (16:07.618)
No, it’s a, what a great question. So what you want is a full spectrum hemp extract every single time. What if, and that is what works best for you and for your pet. When I said FECO, full extract of cannabis oil, that’s what we need. So I mentioned that dogs have more receptors than we do, so they’re more sensitive to it. So a full spectrum hemp extract is amazing for pets. It’s also amazing for us, but.

Jannine Krause (16:16.126)
Okay.

Jannine Krause (16:23.103)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (16:35.854)
we may need a little bit more THC. So go to your dispensary and get it. But if you’re just mild, I mean, I literally treated my RA with a full spectrum hemp extract. I also went to my medical dispensary and got something with a little bit more THC. Also, better dogs don’t need that. In a full spectrum hemp extract is 118 different cannabinoids. CBD,

Jannine Krause (17:02.268)
Okay.

Angela Ardolino (17:03.872)
and THC are the two major ones that always should be in the plant and everything’s the cannabis plant. So if that cannabis plant has more THC versus, I’m sorry, if that cannabis plant has more THC, it therefore has less CBD and is considered marijuana. And if it has more CBD, it therefore has less THC and is considered hemp.

Jannine Krause (17:26.132)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (17:32.322)
Why that’s all confusing is that these are definitions made up by the United States government.

Jannine Krause (17:38.53)
Of course, of course.

Angela Ardolino (17:38.572)
So it makes no sense. So I have to operate in this realm that makes no sense and explain to you what it means. When you see something where they have isolated CBD or one of the 118 THC, CBN, CBG, and they all have a T or a C on them, they’re making pharmaceutical drugs. You gotta have the plant. What do we know? We know that that plant extract has to have all

Jannine Krause (17:55.945)
Yeah.

Angela Ardolino (18:08.71)
compounds to do what research has shown that cannabis can do. Cannabis and hemp can do. When you isolate just one thing, you’ve now created a pharmaceutical, the body doesn’t recognize it, and CBD isolate is a pharmaceutical drug on the market right now, which is why I can’t say the word CBD, I can’t have it on my website, I can’t explain, I can’t talk about it, anything, because I’m now…

Pretending like I have a pharmaceutical drug, which I don’t so that’s why it’s so damn confusing that pharmaceutical drug went through research and CBD isolates cause liver and injury and damage they had to stop the research because so many humans were having liver injury

Jannine Krause (18:42.303)
Thank you.

Angela Ardolino (18:58.412)
So you want to stay away from isolates just like you wanna stay away from isolates and pharmaceutical drugs because they’re dangerous and the body doesn’t recognize them. So always make sure you get a full extract of cannabis oil, which is more THC or a full spectrum hemp extract. And the only way for you to know you’re getting that is if that product gets a certificate of analysis. Never ever, I don’t ever buy a herbal product, mushroom or hemp.

or any herbal product without a COA proving to me that it really is that plant, that it has those compounds in it, and that it’s free from contaminants, pesticides, herbicides, solvents, mycotoxins, all of those things. If you can’t easily access a COA for a product, move on. And certificate of analysis is costly. It has to be done at a third-party lab.

Jannine Krause (19:33.759)
you

Angela Ardolino (19:55.688)
and it ain’t cheap and we do it for every batch that we produce. So that’s why a lot of companies don’t do it. And there’s nobody’s regulating this. Nobody’s making sure that they’re potent, that they’re safe, that you’re getting something real in the bottle, except unless you’re getting it from a medical marijuana dispensary. But medical marijuana dispensaries don’t sell hemp. They sell cannabis. So you can’t go in and get something for your pet most of the time.

Jannine Krause (20:18.995)
No.

Angela Ardolino (20:24.986)
or something that is free of flavoring and those types of things. Like for instance, gummies aren’t medicine. Why are we doing that? Stop. And I get it. It tastes weird sometimes, right? So you might have to put it in your food or your dog’s food or whatever, medicine isn’t supposed to taste like candy.

Jannine Krause (20:29.567)
Yeah.

Jannine Krause (20:39.667)
Yep. Yep.

Jannine Krause (20:48.841)
Well, yes, it is a thing to get people to take it right. it’s, obviously there’s no gummy tree. I mean, there is a gum tree, but not the one we’re thinking about with that’s purple and tastes actually good. Right, there’s little sugar crystals on it as well. But it brings the point back with all the different cannabinoids. There’s a word that I couldn’t think about, so I’m like derivatives, boy, my brain’s not working, need some more. But in that point, it’s…

Angela Ardolino (21:01.366)
Right, it has sugar on top.

Jannine Krause (21:18.555)
It is something that we talk about a lot in formulations with herbal medicine as a whole and folk medicine as a whole because, you know, I live in the realm of being a naturopath, right? And so there are supplements that are extracts. There are, you know, products. And I’ve always wondered and seen that when we get something that’s the whole plant, we do a lot better than when we’re getting things that are like, this is the ashwagandha 295 extract that was researched, you know, and we don’t know if someone would.

Angela Ardolino (21:40.738)
Exactly.

Angela Ardolino (21:47.34)
because I can patent that and I can make a million bajillion dollars off of it. Which also doesn’t make sense to me because the people, the way we do things is so different than another person who does extractions. Like our mushrooms, for instance, we do a spagyric preparation. Most people never even heard of that. It is say.

Jannine Krause (21:49.32)
Right.

Jannine Krause (21:53.778)
Exactly.

Jannine Krause (22:10.654)
I have not.

Angela Ardolino (22:12.0)
It is a true, it’s the ancient way of doing things and it is a true whole extract of a mushroom. It’s considered a triple extract. So like the way we do our mushrooms is we only grow them on the substrate found, that they’re found to grow on in nature because they will not have the bioactive compounds, medicinal compounds in them if they’re grown on oats, rice, grain or something like that. It’s all dust. Yeah.

Jannine Krause (22:36.959)
Your floor.

Angela Ardolino (22:40.814)
cardboard, I mean, and these, and that’s the thing, that’s the difference between people, mushroom enthusiasts, someone who loves them and someone who knows how to make mushroom or hemp medicine. So that’s the difference between the, know, getting high or just loving them type of thing and growing them. But if you want true medicinal mushroom medicine, it has to be grown on the same substrate found in nature. So we either wild forage or we wild cultivate.

And then we do a dual extraction, both hot water and you have to do alcohol. Alcohol is the only way to get through down to those triterpenoids and those incredible bioactives that you can’t get when you just do it in water. And then we do something after we do that hot water and alcohol, everything that’s left, the spent gets purified and put back into the tincture. And that’s what a spagyric is.

So you’re getting all of the minerals, the salts, everything that that mushroom has to offer. So even then, like the I am so different than anybody else out there making a mushroom extract. Most mushroom products aren’t even mushrooms in the first place. They take grain and they inoculate it with the spores. The spores eat everything up. It’s called the mycelium.

And then the mycelium pops up a little primordium mushroom. They take that entire block, throw it, grind it up, put it in a pouch or a capsule and call it a mushroom product. And it has no mushrooms in it at all. It’s ground up grain with mycelium and mycelium is incredible, but you can’t separate it from its substrate. And often those bioactive compounds are often also found in the fruiting body, which is what we know as the mushroom.

Jannine Krause (24:21.023)
Right.

Angela Ardolino (24:28.394)
That’s where the extraction is supposed to be done, on those caps and stems of those mushrooms. So to me, it makes no sense. But what people need to understand is that it’s completely unregulated. Supplements. I just did an incredible podcast with, which I should introduce you, with a person who’s basically a supplement expert, which all she does is help practitioners choose supplements because.

It’s completely unregulated and 85 % of them are worthless. Anybody can turn around and put something in a capsule or a pouch and call it a mushroom powder and it has nothing out, nothing, no mushrooms in it whatsoever. So you have to do, please don’t jump on the internet and go buy the first things that you find because, right, and don’t, and exactly, natural medicine isn’t cheap.

Jannine Krause (25:15.903)
We’re the most, the cheapest one.

Angela Ardolino (25:23.094)
I mean, I just told you what I, how my process of what I do and I make products for pets. All my products are human grade, by the way, I take them all, but my products are for pets. So when I do that alcohol extraction, I then take the time to evaporate all of the alcohol off because alcohol is not good for us. And it’s really not good for our pets. have, they lack the enzyme that helps them break it down. It stays in their body and it’s a lot more toxic to them than it is to our.

to us, so that’s why I take it out. All of that costs a lot of money and is really hard. Just finding people who grow mushrooms correctly. Like how many mushroom farmers I’ve gone to who were probably growing them for culinary use, because that’s the only way they were making money. And I’m like, hey, could you do this a little bit different? And then I can use your product too. Can you grow it on the right substrate? And then also the powders. Why is a liquid extract

from something, from a mushroom that’s 80 % water, 70 to 80 % water, why are we drying a liquid extract? I know why. Because the majority of them are coming from the same two bulk suppliers from China. And it’s a lot cheaper to send a powder over from China than it is a liquid. A liquid is very heavy, and it would cost a lot of money. So they dry it.

They introduce others additives in it like malodextrin. They do things like spray drying where something else gets in it. That’s a fluffing bulking agent. So you’re also getting some sort of weird ass additive in your mushroom extract. So I always like to see it in its original form. Don’t dry that extract. It’s an extra process. Is it easier to throw in your coffee or throw on top of your dog’s food? Yes.

but you’ve put it through another process and that’s not the way it should be. Keep it in its liquid form. And then hemp is an oil. So hemp is best going through the mucous membranes and directly going to the bloodstream. If you put it on food and eat it instead, then it’s going to be metabolized by the liver, it’s gonna be broken down. So instead of getting like 95 % of the medicine when you put it on your gums,

Angela Ardolino (27:45.624)
you’re getting about 50 to 35 % of the medicine when you consume it. So if it’s something serious like seizures or cancer or pain, you always want to put that hemp right on the gums so that it’s absorbed into the bloodstream. And again, has to be made right for that to even happen. So homogenizing, nano-emulsifying it so that when it does hit your mouth, it goes directly into your bloodstream. You should be able to feel

When you take a tincture of a hemp or cannabis product, you should be able to feel it pretty immediately. You should literally, like I said, when I took it the first time, I could literally feel the pain leaving my body. I felt it go through and I was like, my gosh, what is this? And that’s the way it should be. That’s how you know it’s made right.

Jannine Krause (28:35.999)
That sense. makes sense. And definitely, you know, I’m looking at Brian, my golden retriever, I give him some of the ease before the podcast, because sometimes he gets worked up in the neighborhood and people talk to him and he definitely is chill right now. He has eased. He hears me talking about him. So now he’s back up.

Angela Ardolino (28:45.102)
you

Angela Ardolino (28:54.732)
And you know all about adaptogens. So the reason that adaptogens are so magical is A, they adapt to whoever takes them. They adapt to their stressors and figure and work to bring the body back to homeostasis, but they’re interacting with the endocannabinoid system. So when you combine an adaptogen with cannabis, holy cow, it literally makes it more synergistic, more powerful, helps it do its job better. So my actual calming formula,

is full spectrum hemp extract with lavender extract. The one that you have is the Ease, the one that I created for myself and my soul dog, which is a full spectrum hemp extract with frankincense extract and turmeric extract, which are also two other adaptogens, and they share some of the same compounds as cannabis. So when you put them together, it is no more pain. So he’s feeling calm.

Absolutely, that’s something that is a side effect of it, but he’s also feeling no pain and feeling really, really good. So I just love it. It’s something, that’s the way medicine should work, right? We give it to them, not only does it take care of whatever it is, it’s also helping their body’s innate ability to heal itself. And that’s all we should be doing. When pharmaceuticals literally take the body’s ability away to heal itself and never, we never reach homeostasis again.

Jannine Krause (30:23.997)
It’s wild, it’s wild to think about that. I think one of the things that I definitely wanna clear up for folks, cause you mentioned that the yeast has the frankincense and the turmeric extract. Let’s help folks understand that it’s not the extract they would think like extracted only BCM95 turmeric. know, or just, yeah.

Angela Ardolino (30:42.602)
No, it’s a full extract. Yes, thank you for clarifying that. Everything we do, again, I trust Mother Nature. She’s made it perfect. I don’t need to mess it up. If I’ve grown it the right way, and I know that this is the peak time of when I should harvest that flower or that root, and how do I extract it so that I best get all of those medicinal compounds? Like hemp, we do super critical CO2 extraction. You’re like, what the hell is that?

Well, what it is is that it’s the best way to get all of the bioactives out without damaging them. That’s what it is. It’s a lot better than alcohol. It’s a lot better than, I don’t know, there’s so many different ways that they’re doing it now, but this is, I wanted to make medicine. I wanted to make something, what do we expect from medicine? We expect that every time we take that medicine, we get the same result. And it’s kind of hard to do that with.

plants and mushrooms but if we do grow them the right way and the correct way the way they did in nature and we do all of these steps to extract it and preserve it the right way we can we can get get that same result every single time

Jannine Krause (31:53.641)
What are you looking for? You know, I understand with the mushrooms, we’re looking for something grown on a natural substance, like maybe like a wood, like a wood, would be my guess.

Angela Ardolino (32:01.1)
Yeah, most of them are wood. like chaga, for instance. Chaga has to be grown on a birch tree. And I would say 95 % of chaga is not coming from a birch tree. It’s coming off of a grain, grown on a grain. If it does not grow off of a birch tree, it does not have betulic acid in it, which is the main bioactive compound that makes all of the good stuff happen that chaga does. Chaga is…

Jannine Krause (32:09.714)
Hmm, I did not know that.

Jannine Krause (32:25.68)
Yeah.

Angela Ardolino (32:30.126)
The king of all antioxidants. There’s nothing that has more antioxidants in it than Chaga. It’s amazing, but it has to be grown on that birch tree. Alive birch tree, not even a dead one. So that’s how important it is. Chaga, you know, you know, everything there’s a, there’s a, you know, a scale of the best to shit. And most stuff is kind of in the middle, you know?

or they don’t make it potent enough. That was the first thing. I always like dabbled with mushrooms, had a couple of my favorite, but it wasn’t until my Doberman got osteosarcoma that I did the deep dive and the mushrooms. was literally a practitioner for another company until I found out how they were growing, where they were growing. I started going, what?

because I started going, okay, research shows that I should give this much turkey tail, this much reishi, this much cordyceps. Then I would look at the packet and go, I have to put half, first of all, I was doing capsules. And then I read the ingredients of the capsules under the other or the inactive ingredients where I saw all the fillers that they were putting in there. So got rid of those. Then I went to the pouches and realized I would have to put half a pouch in her food to reach the therapeutic dose.

Jannine Krause (33:41.471)
Right.

Angela Ardolino (33:51.468)
And that was for one mushroom. So if I’m going to do that for five, that means her food was completely mud and she wouldn’t eat it. And I’m like, there’s got to be a better way. There has to be something better. So that’s why I did that deep dive and finally found a mycoalchemist who was making a human product that I liked and got with him and go, hey, can we make things for pets? And can I throw in some more adaptogens? Because we’ve already have the proof, the research showing us when you put more adaptogens together that they’re more.

potent and therapeutic. It’s not my opinion. It’s not something that I just came up with. So because there’s no regulation and because most people, there’s not another person in my industry, I’m in the pet industry that has an expert that knows what they’re doing. They didn’t go, how do they know how to make a product? They don’t. They’re just figuring it out. They’re just putting it in a bottle.

In 2018, I got an article every day from the pet industry telling me how CBD was the next, you know, 60 billion dollars, whatever that they would say. So everybody jumped on that bandwagon. When I went to the industry event in 2018, there were 40 of us. And this is a huge, it’s called Super Zoo. It’s huge. Thousands and thousands and thousands of exhibitors. And there were about 40 of us.

who had some sort of hemp, CBD, cookie treat, tincture, whatever. That here, a company called Folium Biosciences, who’s the biggest manufacturer of broad spectrum products, which a broad spectrum product is when they remove the THC and perpetuate the fear that THC is bad or toxic for dogs, which it’s not. They even did a piece of research to prove that.

In 1973, it was called the Rosencrantz study. They wanted to find out how much THC you would take to kill a person. They did the research on rats, dogs, and chimpanzees. And they gave them 9,000 milligrams of THC, which is insane. Why? Right? Two rats regurgitated when they were asleep on their vomit and choked and died.

Angela Ardolino (36:16.59)
No dogs died, no chimpanzees died. It’s called LD50. There’s literally no lethal dose for animals because the body recognizes it and goes, I got too much. Let’s get rid of it. It doesn’t interfere with our heart, our breathing. It’s something that’s completely natural and the body recognizes. So we can get rid of that fear, you know, there. But this company mass produced

broad spectrum products and went around to every exhibitor and said, do you want your own CBD? Do you want your own CBD? So most products, just like mushroom, are white labeled products from the same bulk people who are making it. So the next year at Super Zoo, there were 200 and some CBD cannabis, something, whatever. And the majority of them aren’t pure.

They’re filled with additives. They don’t have anything in them. They’re actually dangerous. There’s isolates on the market, where I already told you, we’ve already proven that those cause liver damage. Now, almost 10 years later, most of those companies are gone, but I still see them pop up. There’s a brand new company that’s selling isolates. There’s actually a…

university programs teaching people how to make pharmaceuticals out of cannabis medicine. And so we’re gonna see it. It’s really hard. We have all this incredible information, but now when we go out into the marketplace and go to try to find those products, there’s so much crap out there.

Jannine Krause (38:00.873)
And this is where we have to be educated listening to podcasts like this and just really understanding what to be on the lookout for because gosh, know, mushrooms, mean, I didn’t even know that Chaga needs to be grown on birch trees. I mean, now I’m thinking like, okay, what about lion’s mane? What about the rest of them? How do we grow those? And I think a lot of people might be wondering too, are all the mushrooms safe for dogs? Is there anything that’s not?

Is there anything we need to be thinking about with mushrooms and ducks?

Angela Ardolino (38:32.77)
So whatever’s poisonous to us is poisonous to them too. So the mushrooms I’m talking about are not psychedelics. They’re medicinal mushrooms, lion’s mane, mitaki, shiitake, reishi, cordyceps, chaga, red belted conch, artist conch, are the ones that I, king trumpet, those are the ones that I really, tremella, those are the ones I concentrate on.

but there are so many different species of them and many of them have medicinal qualities. So those are the ones that I concentrate on and there is so much research out on them already. And now I’ve been using them for five years with just incredible results. So yeah, you wanna make sure that it’s a mushroom that is safe for both of us.

you know, when you’re out foraging in the woods, you absolutely could come across a poisonous mushroom and you shouldn’t just pick them and take them home. you should know what you’re doing, but what’s beautiful about mushrooms is that when you eat them, first of all, this is one of my favorite pieces of research. Eating three grams of mushrooms, chopping them up, frying them up in some ghee, and eating three grams of them feeds your gut microbiome for 13 days.

So if every 13 days you could just eat some and feed them to your dog, you’re literally taking care of the guts microbiome for 13 days. You’re giving it the food that it needs. I’ve even tried this. I’ve even done that. well, let me finish this part. If you’re doing that, not only are you feeding the gut microbiome, but if your dog were to get those mushrooms and then you go on a hike and he were to eat that poisonous mushroom, the good mushroom that he ate literally trains the cells to recognize.

the bad virus, the bad mushroom, the mycotoxin, the bacteria, and helps your cells remove it from the body. So they really are incredible. Mushrooms share 30 % of our DNA. They’re more like us than other animal, than plants and other animals are. We literally are supposed to be consuming them and taking their medicine all the time.

Angela Ardolino (40:42.828)
So as long as you’re sticking with those and it’s a reputable company and you’ve got that certificate of analysis, that COA that shows you, because both hemp and mushrooms are bioaccumulators, meaning they suck everything out of the air and earth. So that’s why it’s very important how they’re grown, how they’re processed, and why you have to have that COA to prove that you’re getting an actual mushroom or hemp product and that there’s no contaminants.

Jannine Krause (41:06.995)
Yes, those COAs. I’ve heard that there are some folks who have manipulated the COA situation in the industry too.

Angela Ardolino (41:14.95)
Yes, they have. So, yeah, make sure that you understand it. First of all, make sure it’s easy to find, meaning you can easily access it. Like you’ll see on our products, we have it on every single label. So you can scan every bottle. Every bottle also has a batch number on it. So you can look at this batch’s certificate of analysis showing you all of that. They should be less than two years old.

So some people will get a COA and use that one COA for the history of the company. And I have already experienced people forging COAs or lying on COAs. And a new thing that’s happening is that people are adding isolates to their products to make certain cannabinoids look like there’s more of them in there. that’s, anytime you see something that says 99 % pure.

CBD or whatever, that’s an isolate. Tasteless, odorless, that’s an isolate. If it’s clear, if it’s white, it’s an isolate. know, real extracts from plants and mushrooms should be brown and kind of green or yellow and have a little bit of a bitter taste and actually taste like a plant material. So you literally can taste it if it’s a true extract.

Jannine Krause (42:43.921)
Wow, so many things.

Angela Ardolino (42:44.526)
And look at the expert behind them, you know? Or go to people like you who have done and vetted. That’s one of my reasons I love independent pet stores. You know, the crazy person who, I was that crazy person who was like, okay, I have 20 dogs. I do not want to pay retail. I’m going to buy a store so I can get everything wholesale and then learn and pick all of the best products, you know, out there.

Jannine Krause (42:54.527)
Yeah.

Angela Ardolino (43:10.754)
But those independent retailers or people like you who really are doing their research and homework have vetted the products or tried them. The other thing that sucks is that when you do find a good product, you always have to keep up on it because really good products get bought up by the big companies and then the big companies go, we want to make a bigger profit. So they don’t test anymore or they don’t bother.

with that mycoalchemist who’s doing it right. Or they don’t bother growing it on the wood anymore or doing the CO2 extraction. So things start to change. Matter of fact, that mushroom company I told you that I was a practitioner for, when the tariffs hit, I suddenly noticed a new inactive ingredient. And that’s because they’re cutting. You know, they’re not putting the plant or mushroom material anymore.

They’re putting more fillers in because they need to make up that bottom line.

Angela Ardolino (44:11.648)
I know.

Jannine Krause (44:11.793)
It’s so, part of it makes me cringe because it hurts the natural medicine industry as a whole because it makes it look like our stuff doesn’t work. And I’d be lying if I said that there are times in my career I’ve been like, this stuff doesn’t work, it’s junk. And it’s because of this exact reason, not patients not getting the highest quality, not using something that I recommended or.

Angela Ardolino (44:22.094)
Exactly.

Jannine Krause (44:36.051)
having a source that I thought was good quality, then we find out, they got bought out like two weeks ago and not that two weeks ago would make a difference, but they were bought out weeks ago and they changed formulations already. And I mean, it happens all the time for sure. It’s why I’m looking to see the owners of the small companies. That’s what I wanna know. That’s my connections. And one of the big things that you had kind of mentioned, I like to learn how to use products effectively and

I like to talk with folks because I can look at certain things and go, okay, I know what that’s for. I know all the herbs in it. I know what it’s about. But each and every formulator has an intention. You also have your energetics into it. And this is one of the things I really want folks to really understand is that when we’re buying from someone that is still involved in their business, creates the formulas themselves, your energetic essence is being put into that. And that’s more important to me.

A lot of times than what an actual formula is because I find things that are powerful when there’s the love with it. We’ve just lost the love.

Angela Ardolino (45:41.94)
Yeah. Yeah. Intention. My intention is to heal animals with plants and mushrooms the way they should. And that’s my intention. My intention is not for my profits to be at a certain, you know, level or something like that. And look at that. That’s a huge difference because you will find a 2999 bottle of a hemp extract or a mushroom extract. And then here’s this 60 to a hundred dollar.

What do you think the difference is? It’s a huge difference. And unfortunately, a lot of people will take the $29.99 and then think CBD doesn’t work. Every single time I hear, I’ve tried it and it didn’t work, I go, could you tell me what you tried? Do you have the bottle? Can you take a picture of it? And the moment they send it to me, I can immediately tell why it didn’t work. It’s probably an isolate. It’s probably a broad spectrum. It’s not potent enough. That’s what blows my mind is the therapeutic dose.

It’s too expensive for the company to make it a therapeutic dose. People won’t buy it. How many times I was told not to do a SAF, nobody’s gonna buy that. I’m like, okay, but dogs have three layers of skin. I own a groom shop and I’ve tested it and I’ve gotten rid of this, this, this, and this. So it is. It isn’t easy, but when you do find those products that really work, they are game changers. And they are fast, too. It’s not.

You you give a potent full spectrum. You can get rid of that pain. You can stop the seizure. My Doberman that I talked about was a geriatric Doberman. She has broken records. I extended her life for two years past her diagnosis when osteosarcoma spreads to the lungs within four months and kills the dog. At 18 months.

I took her in and we did eight diagnostic tests to see where the cancer was. It hadn’t moved. Literally on her lungs, not even a speck, which I don’t know if you’ve ever gone through this, how many times vets will go, I think I see something on the lung, I’m gonna look a little closer. Not even a speck. She did a live blood analysis to show me what the cancer, nowhere. And that is because cancer,

Angela Ardolino (48:07.222)
I mean, sorry, cannabis, I told you, interacts with the five signaling pathways of pain, and that’s why it’s so incredible for pain. For cancer, there’s 12 signaling pathways, and cannabis has already been proven to interact with eight of those pathways in more ways than one. So metastasis, for instance, is one of those pathways. It literally stops the metastasis of the cancer, and that’s why my Doberman had no spread of it anywhere else in her body.

So I love learning these things and then literally watching it happen. know, cannabis and mushrooms do things like train ourselves to be natural killer cells, which then go throughout our body and find rogue or cancer cells and kill them. And then another pathway is called autophagy, where we then remove those dead cells out of our body. So yeah.

So you combine cannabis, mushrooms, adaptogens, and diet on a dog that’s suffering from just about any disease, especially cancer, and you really can make an impact. I’ve done it several times. I’m not allowed to say it, which makes no sense. I did get my first FDA warning letter this year, which was really fun, which I know.

Jannine Krause (49:29.076)
morning.

Angela Ardolino (49:32.728)
people like us, it’s a badge of honor, but it’s really sad for them to sit there and take the time to write me to tell me that I’m not allowed to talk about my cases on my podcast.

Jannine Krause (49:45.385)
Yeah. Yeah.

Angela Ardolino (49:47.534)
I’m gonna go move to another country or somewhere in the woods and I’m gonna keep on doing it. Freedom of speech. I did this, I practiced it, I made it. Why are you so concerned with what I’m doing over here? Oh, I know why. Did you know? This is one of my other favorite pieces. Can you tell I love research? My other pieces of favorite research is, they did this I think in 2020, where every time a state becomes medically legal for marijuana,

Big Pharma loses 1.5 to 2 % of their revenues, which is billions of dollars. it has made, I’m sorry, Pfizer made $100.3 billion in 2023. Yeah. They don’t want you to have any of it. Like, why can’t they just let us do our stuff over here? Why do you got to shut me up? Why do you, why am I such a threat to you?

Jannine Krause (50:38.227)
We can, mean, free choice.

Jannine Krause (50:44.735)
I’m so sorry. Oh, and here is here’s the critter speaking already. He agreed. He agrees. He’s like, yes. He’s like, I’m telling you. So, you know, let’s let’s show folks who are watching on on YouTube right now. And for those of you who aren’t, we’re just going to tease you that maybe come over to the YouTube side and you can see kind of a couple of things you had described to me, your nourish bomb stick. And for those of you guys are looking, I’m demoing it here.

Angela Ardolino (50:49.128)
Woohoo, he agrees. I’m speaking for you, Brian. I got you.

Jannine Krause (51:13.251)
One of my big things that I started using this on, on Brian, because I’m gonna share my case, is that he’s had some tick bites. And we’ve had to deal with that because we live in the Northwoods, ticks are common, it happens. And if you wanna go hike, you gotta deal with it. So I’ve put this on and I’ve started to put it on his little lump that he has, one little lump, it’s like the size of my pinky, it is starting to shrink. Is it gone yet? No, but I haven’t had enough. I feel like I probably need like maybe 90 days on it.

Angela Ardolino (51:23.288)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (51:41.858)
Right. and giving the tincture internally is also going to reduce inflammation and help the body remove whatever bad is in it. Same. had never in Florida, we didn’t, didn’t have a tick problem, but then now I’m out here. I’m like, what the hell? These things are everywhere. but yes, anything lumps, bumps, irritations. I, I, you know, say every senior citizen should be dog, animal person should be on a full spectrum hemp extract and medicinal mushrooms.

Jannine Krause (51:42.003)
I was gonna kind of probably.

Jannine Krause (51:55.903)
everywhere.

Angela Ardolino (52:10.274)
They literally just help your body do what it’s supposed to do. It just, just helps it keep it going, gets rid of inflammation, helps it operate. So it is something that every senior should be taking. And if you have a senior dog, they’re seniors by age seven. if you got a little dog by age 10, but age seven, he’s now like 50, 60 years old. And we need to look at them that way. Cause they don’t look that way. They don’t act that way, but.

they do go through the same things that we go through.

Jannine Krause (52:44.531)
And one of the things that I was mentioning on the podcast and I alluded to earlier is that we’re getting older, I’m getting older, I’m starting to see that he’s kind of experiencing a lot of what I’m experiencing, he’s mimicking it. And so going back to the nurse thing and you’re saying like, hey, put on your skin, can work on the spots on your skin. I’m like, well, I need a bath. Do you have a bath product? Do you have a bat? Dip me in, pull me back out.

Angela Ardolino (53:06.554)
I do. I know that would be nice. Like a mud bath in a tub. Yes, that would be nice. I do. cover myself in those. have humans that have had skin cancer that use the remedy all the time on their skin and get rid of skin, you know, cancer. We know Rick Simpson.

Jannine Krause (53:11.391)
but you do have a bath product.

Jannine Krause (53:16.575)
I don’t know.

Jannine Krause (53:32.839)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (53:32.872)
RSO, which Rick Simpson was a hemp farmer who got skin cancer and got rid of his skin cancer with hemp and is now famous and has products named after him. but yeah, it’s, there’s no denying anybody who’s like into using chat GPT or AI. And you want to know literally type in there and go, show me the research for reishi for skin. Show me all the research on reishi extracts.

Jannine Krause (53:58.207)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (54:01.582)
You guys, your mind will be blown. They don’t talk about this on the news. They don’t talk about this on the internet, but it is all there. It’s being kept from you. And that is literally all I did was start researching what plants, what mushrooms, what adaptogens. That’s when I became, fell in love with adaptogens. And those of you who don’t know what adaptogens are, they are plants, mushrooms, sometimes even dirt. I don’t know if you’ve heard of Shilajit.

but it’s literally a combination of plants and mushrooms that when we take them, they adapt to what our stressors need, what our body needs. if I, when I take it and you take it and our dog take it, it literally adapts to what we need, which I think is a beautiful thing and that’s the way medicine should work. When instead, conventional medicine is a standard of care.

You’ve got this disease, you take this drug, get this surgery, you get, you know, whatever it is instead of looking at the individual. So literally adaptogens are personalized medicine because they adapt to what that person or that animal needs. And if you get too much, it just gets rid of it because it knows it. If it needs more, then it’s going to keep more of it. But it is really incredible what they do and they need more attention because

Jannine Krause (54:56.191)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (55:24.362)
They’re everywhere. Shilajit, which what Shilajit is, is literally the Himalayan mountains when they, the snow melt happens, it’s all of the snow melt, all the dirt, plant material that comes down off of it. That’s literally what it is. And it’s considered an adaptogen. And it literally has, you know, fulvic and humic and all of the essential minerals that we need.

I can tell when I don’t take my chelagy. You know, we, our fruits, our vegetables, our water, everything is lacking these essential minerals and this adaptogen provides them all.

Jannine Krause (56:08.639)
It’s one of the things that I highly recommend to all women, you know, over 40 in particular, but I mean, everyone can benefit, but it is something that I do think is we need it, you whether it’s for our nervous system, whether it’s for just adapting to life’s and environmental stressors too. Now, one of the things, and I don’t know if I’ve kind of highlighted this enough in this podcast, but I want to make sure that we get the point across before we find out more about where we can find you and things of that nature, is that one of your signature…

offering is really that you are blending mushrooms and hemp oil together. And this is the thing that I won’t.

Angela Ardolino (56:43.48)
Well, I keep them separate. So my mushrooms are separate from my hemp because hemp is oil and mushrooms are water. So they can be taken together and they’re amazing together. And I add other adaptogens to them, but I don’t have them together for that reason because they it’s more bioavailable for the hemp to go. It’s an oil to go right into our mouth, but mushrooms are water like we are. So it literally can go in our our water or in our food and it will have the same effect.

Jannine Krause (57:12.467)
Yes, good clarification, but your premise or idea is wanting to blend them together for the protocols. Okay, okay, yes, wanna make sure that we have that in the graph. Yes.

Angela Ardolino (57:19.554)
Yep. Absolutely.

and you had brought up energetics. This is my favorite thing about cannabis. So also that cannabis is the queen. She’s the queen of all adaptogens. It is called the endocannabinoid system after her. It’s not called the endocopoia or the endotumoric system. It’s called the endocannabinoid system. But cannabis herself literally will take the energetics of a hot

herb or a cooling herb and if that body needs the opposite, it will adapt and change the energetics of it. So a lot of times turmeric is very warming and I’ll have people worried that turmeric is warming and that they, you know, maybe shouldn’t give it to their, give the ease to their dog. And I’m like, yeah, but it’s combined with cannabis. So if that dog shouldn’t have that warming herb, it will literally change the energetics of it.

That’s the other beautiful thing about the adaptogens. So that’s why I call cannabis the queen of all adaptogens, because she literally will make sure everything you put with her will be perfect for that body that it’s going into.

Jannine Krause (58:29.031)
Nice, nice, good to know, good to know. All right, we gotta tell everybody Angela where they can find you, where they can find all your products, because I know you have your website, Angelina, Angelina, now I’m mixing your, I need.

Angela Ardolino (58:44.6)
I know, it’s because I look so much like Angelina Jolie, I get it.

Jannine Krause (58:48.083)
I need some more clarity. I’m just gonna take some really fast here. So.

Angela Ardolino (58:52.302)
Clarity is my favorite clarity when I so we already have it’s an atropic I also just did my first clinical research on it on dogs suffering from CCD Which is basically doggy dementia and we had an 82 % success rate Improvement. improvement rate on dogs that were taking it meaning we reversed dementia Great. I’m gonna get an FDA letter for saying that but I did that and was able to do that

Jannine Krause (59:21.261)
I did.

Angela Ardolino (59:22.156)
with these herbs, got this watch this and I have to tell this story if you’ll indulge me. had an old, a senior dog rescue. So here I was putting cancer into remission, stopping seizures, getting dogs who weren’t walking again, exploding giant MCT tumors, was doing it all. And then, and on old dogs, then I had this case where she, Ms. Daisy,

She was 16 at this point, getting up, going over to the water bowl, standing there, looking at it, not drinking, going back, laying back down and doing it four times in a row. And I’m just watching it. And it wasn’t until my partner said, I think she has Alzheimer’s. I was like, who are you? And why do you, what makes you say that? Cause his dad passed from Alzheimer’s and he taught me that you lose.

the ability to swallow and chew. You forget how to do it. You don’t lose the thirst or the hunger. You just forget how to do it. And that literally ripped my heart out. I was like, what? So I lost her to CCD, not even knowing about it. And that’s when I started the deep dive. And that’s where I found these nootropics. And I was like, all right, well, we’ve got all this proof on these nootropics. Let’s put them together.

and watch it. So the next dog or the net, all the other older dogs that I would get, and my soul dog who was also about to turn 16, I’m like, I’m not losing him to this. So literally created that. And now we just did a research study to prove it and watched these dogs. those that were experiencing mild to moderate literally brought them back to normal. Those that were at severe symptoms got better.

but it literally is what our brain needs. These nootropics are unbelievable. Astragalus root, Bacopa maniri, lion’s mane, all have already been proven to regrow our telomeres, regenerate neurons. That’s effing incredible that these mushrooms and plants do this. So anyway, the study’s called the Senior Dog Study if you wanna look it up.

Jannine Krause (01:01:34.783)
Mm-hmm.

Angela Ardolino (01:01:42.758)
And as you know in research, always started, usually for humans, started in vitro and then go to mice and rats and then go to dogs. Well, I just proved it worked in dogs, so I’ll just leave it at that. You can come to your own conclusions. But my website is angelaardalino.com. Everything that I make is human grade and take myself, but I do specialize in pets and animals.

because I love them and that’s my intention. And I also have a podcast called Your Natural Dog podcast, which you’re going to be a guest on.

Jannine Krause (01:02:20.125)
Yes, such a good podcast. I’ve already geeked out on quite a few of them because it’s stuff that people ask me about for, you know, like, what about this for my pets? And I’m like, I don’t know, but you know, sure. This is what I’ve done.

Angela Ardolino (01:02:32.844)
And that’s what we’re going to talk about. And that’s what we’re going talk about on my podcast is the fact that there is not naturopathic doctors in the pet space and what a difference and what is missing and how confusing that is. even for the few holistic that you can actually find. Like you said, holistic is now a marketing term.

Jannine Krause (01:02:55.615)
100%, especially in the clinic that I went to. They have no clue.

Angela Ardolino (01:03:01.132)
You walk into a holistic, I’m using quotation marks, holistic vet and all the flea and tick, poisons are sitting there in their little counter. That’s not a holistic vet. Turn around and go out. Matter of fact. Yes. Thank you. You see those prescription? Nope. Get it out. And honestly, it is really hard to find a true holistic, veterinarian.

Jannine Krause (01:03:13.577)
Yep. If the science diet stuff is everywhere too.

Angela Ardolino (01:03:28.468)
If you are seeking one, the best way to get with them is telehealth. So go get your labs done or you can meet with them, get the blood work. If you need x-rays, get it done. This is what I do. And then I go send them to my holistic vet and then I do telehealth with them. And matter of fact, not only do I do telehealth, I go, this is what I think I should do. This is the protocol I was going to do. What do you think? And then you do that a couple of times over a couple of years, they’re going to be going,

You got it, you got it. Because that’s the way it should be. But yeah, it’s very different for our pets than it is for our humans.

Jannine Krause (01:04:09.519)
Yeah, it makes me sad. It makes me really sad and you know thinking I was trying to find someone that would align and and Yes, I’ve since found some folks online that are that are great But you know for those folks who aren’t you know a savvy This is one of the reasons I want to do this podcast to is to put the word out there that there are You know folks we can look for there are products we can use there are things we can do on our own because as far as I know

Even if I am a naturopathic doctor, I can make recommendations for you and maybe that your pet gets it too.

Angela Ardolino (01:04:40.418)
Yep, absolutely. And what works for you works for your pets too. There’s literally like five things, chocolate, onions, grapes, raisins. That’s about it. I mean, I can’t, I’m trying to think if I got everything, but literally. Yeah, there’s probably one more, but honestly guys, what works for us works for them.

Jannine Krause (01:04:56.083)
I’m like, there’s one more, what is it?

Jannine Krause (01:05:04.574)
that’s the point across here. instead of Angelina, angelaardolino.com guys, head over there. I’ve now had my clarity. I hope that my brain will hold up now for this and mycodog, that’s mycodog.com too, right? That’s a website too that you’ve got for the tinctures here. And yeah, I really dig, actually for human flavor on the Clarity, I like it. It tastes kind of smoky. It gives me like a sense of,

Yeah, I like the herb. like it. Brian, I have to coerce him on that one, but I really like that one. So that was strange. Yeah.

Angela Ardolino (01:05:38.698)
And it’s sweet. So I, because I evaporate the alcohol out, there’s no alcohol in it and we preserve it in organic vegetable glycerin, which has a sweet taste to it. So a lot of dogs really like the taste. To me, I’m like, my God, it’s so much better than a tincture that’s burning me from the alcohol, which I hate that. And your dog and cat really hate it.

Jannine Krause (01:05:59.24)
Yes.

Really don’t get the animals, the alcohol tinctures. That is so huge to make sure we get that point across. So Angela, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. I look forward to coming on yours, the Natural Dog Podcast, and we’ll be talking about that here soon. So guys, we’ll link to that in the podcast notes at drjcrossnd.com. And yeah, I’m sure we’ll have Angela back on about some more topics, because there’s so many things I wanted to ask you, but.

Angela Ardolino (01:06:06.637)
That’s right.

Jannine Krause (01:06:27.719)
I think so many folks have only attention span for so long, but I would keep you here for hours because I have so many other questions that I get. So maybe what we’ll do is we’ll do a repeat or a follow-up podcast where I list out all the things I’m commonly asked about herbs. So, all righty. Well, thanks for listening, guys. You guys have a great day, whatever you’re doing. There

Angela Ardolino (01:06:40.641)
fun.