Ep 578: The Future of Mental Fitness with Dr. Patrick Porter

In this episode of the Health Fix Podcast, Dr. Jannine Krause sits down with Dr. Patrick Porter, founder of BrainTap®, to explore the cutting-edge neurotechnology that’s changing how we think about brain health, stress resilience, and performance.

BrainTap combines guided visualization, light frequencies, and sound therapy to create brainwave entrainment—a way to synchronize your brain to healthier patterns. By tapping into neuroplasticity, BrainTap helps reduce stress, improve sleep, support hormone balance in perimenopause, and optimize brain function at any age.

Dr. Porter shares his personal BrainTap routine, insights from clinical use in wellness clinics and with pro athletes (yes—even Tom Brady’s PT uses it), and how frequencies influence everything from gut microbes to HRV. He also breaks down the science of the subconscious mind, limbic system retraining, and how this tech mimics nature’s rhythms to restore balance.

Whether you’re struggling with brain fog, poor sleep, chronic stress, or perimenopause symptoms—or just want to operate at your best—this conversation reveals how BrainTap can help you unlock your brain’s full potential.

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About Dr. Patrick Porter

Dr. Patrick Porter is an award-winning author, speaker, and founder of BrainTap®. With a lifelong mission to better a billion brains, he has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, People, Entrepreneur, INC and on ABC, NBC, CBS as a leading expert in brain health and neuroplasticity.

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Podcast Transcript

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Brain Tap and Its Unique Approach
04:59 Understanding Brainwave Frequencies and Their Impact
07:50 The Role of Vagal Nerve Stimulation in Healing
10:51 The Connection Between Stress, Energy, and Health
13:35 Neuroplasticity: The Brain’s Ability to Heal
16:16 The Importance of Energy in Healing
19:21 The Impact of Modern Technology on Brain Health
22:04 The Science Behind Brain Tap’s Effectiveness
24:51 Integrating Multiple Healing Modalities
27:47 The Future of Brain Health and Healing
31:19 The Healing Power of DMT and Gut Health
34:07 The Importance of Sleep and Brain Detoxification
39:19 Harnessing the Body’s Superpowers Through Stress
42:20 Navigating Perimenopause: Dietary and Lifestyle Changes
48:55 Daily Routines for Optimal Brain and Body Health
58:42 Outro THFP 2022.mp3

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Jannine Krause (00:01.367)
Dr. Patrick Porter, welcome to Health Fix Podcast.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (00:04.105)
Thanks for having me. It’s great to be here.

Jannine Krause (00:06.297)
Wow, I have been waiting for this one for weeks because my partner Laura at the Center for Human Restoration and I have been geeking out with Brain Tap. I’ve been having on my phone, we’ve been using a little bit of the headset. She’s been geeking out like crazy and we have lots of questions even though she’s not here, I have lots of questions for you. But jumping into this, one of the things that I have found very interesting about the era that we’re in in medicine now is that there’s a lot of

surgence of different brainwave types of capabilities, different types of PEMF, but also I’m seeing a lot of vagal nerve stimulators out there. And one of the big things that I wanted to jump in with is how does brain tap kind of differ from the folks that might be seeing like, there’s PEMF, but then there’s also a type of vagal nerve stimulator. What’s the difference when you break it down with everything?

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (01:03.458)
We love PMF. It’s something that if it’s low level like a line mat or something like that, you can do it at the same time as brain tap. The difference is that they’re, they’re pulsing a frequency like let’s say it’s a Schumann frequency, the earth frequency that your cells are actually listening all the time. And this is what happens with the EMF. So if people are wondering why these frequencies are so important, when we get bombarded by a tower, let’s say a G5 tower, that’s actually pulsing 50 million pulses per second.

Our cells have something on them called a chromoform. This is a little battery that absorbs light, and vibration. And it actually changes our epigenetic expression. So for your listeners, just so they understand, back in 2003, when they mapped out our human genome, they said we only had 1 % and then they said we mapped it. They said the rest was junk. Well, what they found out in 2018 was God didn’t make any junk. That in 2018, what happened was we have technology now that shows that our epigenetic expression changes.

every DNA pair every 40 seconds. So that means these pulses, your body is trying to tell you what to do. To put it in perspective, when we look out at the sun, that sun is not just beaming light to us. Those lights are coming as codes to our body. We call it the circadian rhythm. And I know I saw one of your videos where you talked about the cortisol crash around two o’clock. That’s natural for everybody. So when you’re in a high cortisol state in the morning, that should be natural. You should not drink coffee because it crushes that curve.

You have it about two hours afterwards. But then at two o’clock when your temperature drops two degrees, that’s because the light from the sun has instructed your body to reset because our brains were not designed for this day and age. They were designed for the Serengeti. You know, so what happens in the Serengeti? We take a nap. And then of course, we need to do some down regulation at night. So we’ll talk about that later in the podcast. But when we think about first PMF, we love it because when we think about the brain,

The brain of course is the one that moves the muscles, ligaments, tendons, that moves the energy through the body. But if you have a trauma in the body or toxins in the body, then PMF is a really good way to shake it up. Because when it’s vibrating, think of it like when you have a cloudy glass of water and you shake it up and you can get it clear. You your cells are doing that, but what happens is the cells actually shake out the toxins. So when the PMF, and that’s why some people will have flu-like symptoms even after they do one.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (03:28.216)
they’ll start getting a runny nose or watery eyes because the cells, it dumps it into something called the lymphatic system, right? And so that’s why we need to do breathing exercises, brain tap, whatever it is after we do these things or during them. Now we have the high voltage kind of, or I think it’s amperage or whatever it is, but we can’t use the brain tap at the same time as that one. It’s a 10 minute dose. And that one, goes boom, boom, boom, know, and basically really resets your body. We have…

We have like four different ones here at the lab in New Bern that people try out. But as far as vagal stimulators, we love vagal stimulators. Most of them that we’ve tested here at the lab, humming actually works better. So when you think about humming or singing to yourself is actually one of the best ways you can activate your vagus nerve. But what we did in the brain tap to make, so all these things are good. I’m gonna explain why brain tap, it’s not better, it’s just different in what it does. But there are a few vagal stimulators that really do work.

Jannine Krause (04:10.353)
Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (04:26.926)
There’s a lot that don’t. Because they say when you’re doing them hum with them, if they say that as part of their protocol, just hum. You know, because we’ve tested and we get the same result with just humming or using their device. Now there’s some electrical stim ones that you wear. Now the vagus nerve, of course, they call it the wandering nerve. And this is what turns on the parasympathetic system, the rest, digest and recovery system of the body. What we’ve done is we use the inner ear in those lights in the ears of the brain tap. When people look at that, go.

How weird. Why do they have lights in the ears? That’s just bizarre. Well, the lights in the ears are actually pulsating through something called Noje frequencies. Dr. Noje actually had seven frequencies of the body and what he found out was if any one of those frequencies are out of tune, so think of your body like a tuned instrument, they now know in science that every cell of your body is singing and your body together creates a tone. You have a frequency response. That’s what keeps the cells of your body together.

So when you think about the vagal stimulator and what’s happening, what we’re doing is we’re using light to do that. So that light is pulsing and it changes every two minutes because the body in these receptor sites and the way the reticular activating system works, which is that part of the brain that observes our environment says, is this safe? Is this okay? Am I all right? That’s always alert. So we need to keep it vigilant because what we want to train when training the brain, we want you to stay in a super state of awareness, but in a relaxed state in the physiology.

Jannine Krause (05:31.523)
Mm-hmm.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (05:55.086)
so your body can function. What’s happening right now is of course people are in high sympathetic and they’re locked. And so some of these vagal stimulators are really good to unlock that nervous system. And that’s what BrainTap does with the light. So, and we started doing that actually with autistic children. We didn’t have the ear lights then, but we did a research project in California with Joquita Handy. And we took people that were, there was actually a magnetic resident therapy research program and she was running it.

and every parent had to spend $6,000 to see if they qualified. They dismissed 60 % of them. Well, the placebo is 40%. So who were they dismissing? And then so I said, well, those people that got dismissed, could we do a project with them with brain tips? I’d never done anything with autistic children. I said, if you’re willing to run it, I’m willing to supply the equipment. Let’s see what happens. What we found out, and the whole thing is about alpha.

So when we think, we’ll talk about brainwaves probably a little bit deeper later, but think of alpha as the daydreaming, basically first stage of recovery brainwave. And that’s where you get your creativity, but it’s also linked to vocal, to speech. So what we found with these autistic kids is they had no alpha. So they would be in high beta, they’d be stimming. You ever seen a kid that shakes and quakes and things like that? That’s because just like an animal that shakes, you know, like the song, Shake It Off.

Jannine Krause (07:13.145)
Thank

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (07:19.214)
You know, our body wants to shake that off. Now, when we get into theta, that’s why Robert Melillo wrote a book called Disassociated Kids. If they get locked in theta, they’re disassociated. This world doesn’t exist for them. Even though it exists for us, they’re here, but they’re not processing through the same sensory-based system. They’re not aware. These kids are super brilliant. So what we did was we had them do the brain tap once a day, and within 30 days,

Once we got their brainwave of alpha trained up to 23%, 90 % of them started speaking. Because the brain, think of these brainwaves as we delve deeper into them. Think of them like Wi-Fi networks. If you were to open up your phone, if you’re in the city, there’s probably 10 different Wi-Fi networks that come up, but you can’t get into them because you don’t have the code. The same thing’s true with your physiology. When you think about getting into these brainwave states, if you’re in a high state of stress and anxiety and beta,

Jannine Krause (07:53.837)
Wow.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (08:16.44)
then you can’t access those healing codes because your body’s saying run from this tiger because the body doesn’t discern between a text message, a tiger, a lion, a car accident. It doesn’t know the difference. It just is their stress. And there’s something I might add here just so they understand because in your talk, you’re talking about sugar levels. I’ve never met anyone that had a carbohydrate deficiency. So there are people that do, but I’ve never met them.

Jannine Krause (08:44.152)
I’m

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (08:45.454)
Our body produces all the sugar we need. Sitting in your liver right now is 25 grams of glucagon. This is sugar. When you have a stressful event, it dumps it into the bloodstream. Now your body goes through a vicious cycle because you can’t process five tablespoons of sugar. But that you’re supposed to be running from something. You know, your muscles…

You’re unloading the sugar from your muscles and now the bloodstream. But what’s happening is you’re sitting in your car, you’re sitting talking to your family member, you’re sitting in front of the computer, you’re watching a stressed out movie. So the body has to deploy now insulin, right? So the insulin pump starts. Pretty soon what happens and what we’re finding with lot of people is they have what we call insulin resistance because think of it like this little drip. It’s supposed to, insulin is just supposed to come in when you need it. It’s like an emergency thing. You’ve got too much sugar in your bloodstream because if you have more than one tablespoon,

You can have toxemia, it does crazy things to you. So insulin is a fat storage hormone for the listener so they understand. Now where does it put this fat? It doesn’t put it where we want it. It’d be nice if we get directed where we want it, we could shape our bodies. But it puts it in the adipose tissue like you were talking about belly fat. And they now know that belly fat actually has its own nervous system. So it’s a thinking system that drives you to continue to eat the foods that keep it alive.

Jannine Krause (09:59.843)
Hmm, yes.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (10:07.744)
So it’s like, wow, that’s why the gut brain connection is so important. And sometimes we use red light therapy, PMF, these are all things that get the gut and brain to coordinate. But the one brain that I want everybody to remember, because the brain between your ears is like a Google tablet. It doesn’t do anything unless it’s hooked up to the internet. Your brain up here doesn’t do anything unless it’s hooked up to the heart. That’s why if you have a spinal cord injury, your body’s still functioning.

Jannine Krause (10:28.141)
You

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (10:36.546)
but you can’t walk and talk because this brain has been disconnected. But the real brain in the gut and the brain in the heart, which has 40,000 neutrino cells, is still operating. Those are the two brains that we want to bring into synchronicity. That’s why HRV or heart rate variability is so important today. Everybody’s looking at it as the gold standard for healing. So with BrainTap, what we’ve proved with our neurocheck technology, which is heart rate variability on steroids, because we can measure nine parameters of the nervous system, we can actually show meridians.

A lot of acupuncturists will use it to show the blockages, then put the needles in or the seeds or whatever they’re gonna do, or they use lasers, whatever they’re doing. Then they’ll do a rescan and they’ll show the energy’s now flowing. With Brain Tap, because the ears, now we’re back to the ears again, the ears have meridian points that go out throughout the whole body. So you know, but maybe listeners don’t know, you can put a seed in there, you can put a laser in there, you can put a needle in there, and it actually directs energy through the body. So what I thought was, wow, with these autistic kids,

Jannine Krause (11:18.733)
Yes.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (11:34.648)
They can’t understand me, or at least I don’t know they’re understanding me because they’re stimming or they’re doing whatever. So we started to put the nojé frequencies in. What we found out was after about three minutes, virtually everyone looked like they passed out. The parents said, I’m not leaving until I get that. How did you do that? Well, what we did was we triggered the vagus nerve. And then the body knows how to heal itself.

We have to get out of the way. We have to feed it the right nutrients. We have to move and breathe and we have to do some kind of mental fitness or brain fitness as I like to call it. And so all that works in, so when you think about what’s different is you can do everything else. But if you’re not fixing the brain, it’s not gonna work. Because that’s the, and the main reason for that I should say is that they’ve done a lot of studies on pessimist and optimist. Okay, one study that was

circulating around COVID was they took people that looked at COVID as a challenge and other people looked at it as a threat. And you might not know this or your listeners might not know this, but your cells are actually absorbing light energy all the time from the sun, from the room, from everything. And it’s absorbing it into the mitochondria, then it’s broadcasting it out. You are actually broadcasting eight, 10 nanometer light. Everyone does it. And it extends out about three feet. And our NIH, actually, if you go to their website and put in biosphere,

you’ll see that in 1994 they said, we have a biosphere and all illness starts in this field. So I’m not sure why they’re still giving out pills because you can’t have a pill without a skill. So if you can take the pill and then the brain will get dumb, it’ll say, oh, you’re taking the pill, I don’t need to do it anymore. That’s like drinking the coffee first thing in the morning. You don’t want to do that because it crushes that cortisol curve. You need that cortisol to wake up, neoprenephrine, dopamine and cortisol. All that you needed the morning.

Jannine Krause (13:18.713)
Thank you.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (13:28.558)
And then when it naturally drops, you need to re-trigger it again through a cycle of sleep. Because during that cycle of sleep, you’re also building neurotransmitters, which we can go into a little bit later. That’s where you build up your neurotransmitter bank account. It’s normal to feel tired in the afternoon, especially as we age. Now when we’re younger, we can just blow right past that. And this is because our brains, when we’re born, are 18.1 volts. When we’re about 21, it goes to about 10.1 volts.

If that voltage drops below seven, we’re gonna have dementia-like symptoms. If it drops below four, we’re gonna have Alzheimer’s-type symptoms. In our study we did with Dr. Kelly Miller, who’s also a chiropractor, he did a study and he wrote a book called Saving Your Brain. It’s available on Amazon and all that. He talks about brain tap because what we did in six weeks is take everybody in the study off the dementia scale because of energy. It’s all about energy. It’s an energy equation.

If you have enough energy, think of energy or ATP in the body like you would think of money in the bank account for your business. You know, they say money solves a lot of problems. ATP solves a lot of problems. And when we’re younger, we have a lot of it. And this stimulates, of course, stem cells and all these things, killer cells. And when you have the energy, you can activate the whole system and it’s all working for you. It’s like having a battalion out there, you know, working for you every day in a battle. But if you don’t have the supply lines to keep it energized.

doesn’t matter, they’re gonna die. They’re not gonna be able to function, they’re not gonna be able to wake up. So we need to wake up the system to heal itself. And that’s really, think, brain tap, we’ve proven it in science, the NIH study we did, one session of brain tap proved 27.3 % better neurological function. We showed that if they do it three times a day, or three times a week, because we’re doing it for clinical use, three times a week, by the end of 30 days, that became their normal. So now they increased their

The increase, and what I like to say is, it’s all frequency when you’re talking about these things. So, and what I mean by that is what you frequently see. So if you’re a positive person, you see high frequency people, you see high frequency events, you see high frequency foods. But if you’re low frequency, we’re talking about that attitude that’s so important. If you’re low frequency, you look for low frequency foods, low frequency activities, you’re a Debbie Downer. And your cells, they’ve actually proven now that your epigenetic expression actually

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (15:53.326)
But if you have a negative thought, you actually down regulate yourself. So it’s like saying you have all this potential, but now you’re saying to yourself, you can’t do it. So the body goes, okay, you’re right. You can’t do it. So Henry Ford was when he said, when you think you can’t or think you can’t, you’re right. And so as you think about this, it’s all part of the equation is energy. And we can go into detail a little bit more about why we use lights and the eyes and the ears and things like that. But the whole thing is why we’re different is we have science.

Jannine Krause (16:06.937)
Thank

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (16:21.698)
I’ve been doing this since 1986. Nobody did this before me. There was no biohacking. There was no, there were some natural medicine doctors and I worked with the chiropractor, Stan Fuco, who gave me my first job. And we used to, we still work with a lot of chiropractors because they helped me out when I first started. And that’s because the spine is the keyboard to the brain. And if the spine isn’t aligned,

then of course if the spines align, the energy systems, you can do it through acupuncture too. I mean, that’s why we work with acupuncturists, because it’s all about energy flowing through the body. If you’re not getting that energy from the brain to the body, it’s not gonna work. So we need to, and that’s the pathways through the spine, and that’s what they call subluxations. You know, when you have different blockages in the spine. And what we do is we have a whole series called neurologically based chiropractic, that after they get their chiropractic adjustment, they listen to it so that we can use neuroplasticity.

And we can talk a little bit about that too, what neuroplasticity is, and neuropruning, and neurogenesis.

Jannine Krause (17:20.779)
Yes. You know what, let’s talk about that because I think for a lot of people, you know, there is this concept of I see the chiropractor, they adjust me, then I got to keep going back, you know, two, three times a week for the rest of my life. Same thing with acupuncture. You got to keep going back to keep getting the benefit. But what if we can extend the benefit by using Brain Tap? So yeah, let’s talk about neuroplasticity and really.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (17:39.626)
Let’s talk about that. Parker, who started chiropractic, he would not let his patients leave for an hour after an adjustment. Because just like yoga, a lot of people do yoga, they think it’s a physical exercise. And I do a lot of work with the Ames Institute, the All Indian Institute of Medical Sciences. Actually, their neuroscenters are called the Brain Tap, Brain Wave and Treatment Neurocenters over there, because we proved out these ancient traditions like breath work and Reiki and some of their natural remedies.

We showed it in science that it’s actually doing something to the physiology. It’s the physiology department that we’re working with, not the psychology department, because they’re way behind. They think talking is going to help somebody. And talking might help people, and it does change 3,200 gene expressions, but only if you talk about the solution. If you talk about the problem, you’re making a better problem. That’s why I’m so disappointed in my profession, because I’ve never seen a study that’s better than 12 % in psychology. The placebo’s 40%.

So does that mean that they’re talking people out of it? And if you’re a psychologist listening, go do your research. If you find something better than 12%, I have a standing offer, I’m gonna pay you $1,000, send me that study. I’ve never seen it. And I’ve been saying that for like 10 years. Now the problem is that, that’s old school psychology. Positive psychology is different. We know that works because now we’re setting goals, we’re achieving things.

And so when you’re, let’s say you have an adjustment or you get your aligning the meridians. Well, now the brain is going to have to work really hard during that time. It’s going to take energy. That’s called neuroplasticity. We need to get the, so let’s say we know because Dr. Barwell, who’s one of the chiropractors that got me into the field with chiropractors along with Dr. Fab Mancini who ran Parker College. When you think about, I should say Palmer is one who started.

chiropractic, not Parker. I made a mistake earlier, it’s Dr. Palmer. Parker is the college in Texas that I work with a lot. So what we notice is when you do an adjustment, you get this light up in the brain. It’s almost like the old Microsoft systems when they said, you got a problem, just reboot it, it’ll fix it. That’s really what they’re doing because the brain will reorganize. Your brain is designed to heal you. It’s not designed to stay dysfunctional, but it needs energy to do that.

Jannine Krause (19:35.896)
Yeah.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (20:04.44)
So when you get the adjustment and you just walk out to your car and you start stressing out again, the brain doesn’t get a chance to rewire and fire. that even five minutes or 10 minutes after, even after a workout or when you’ve done something strenuous, because when you’ve done something strenuous in a workout, you created something called BDNF, brain derived neurotrophic factors. This creates energy in the brain or ATP. So when you think about these things and the reason this is important,

for listeners, when you were born, you were the smartest you’re ever gonna be. Believe it or not, you were at 18.1 volts, you had a 100 billion neurobit processor, fully wired, you were fully connected. Then as you learn things, you began to unplug your brain. This is called neuropruning. And that’s because we can’t remember everything at any one time. So the brain is gonna figure out, what do I need to remember? That’s why if you’ve learned a language, if you’ve learned a second language before you’re seven,

There’s a circuit in the brain that helps you to learn different languages. Our science officer, Dr. Sidral, I took him to Indy with me a couple of years ago, and by the end of three weeks, he’s speaking Hindi. And I said, Francisco, when did you learn Hindi? says, we’ve been here for three weeks. He says, I speak six languages. His language program in the brain, when we learned to speak, we didn’t go to class, we didn’t learn about nouns, verbs, adjectives, and all these things. We absorbed that through brain wave frequency called theta.

because our brain was operating in high levels of theta. When we’re adults, unfortunately, that’s a brainwave that suffers. And that’s why we focus on that one the most with BrainTap, to get that brainwave back activated. That’s your invented mind. That’s when you take everything you think, there’s the conscious mind and then there’s the unconscious mind, right? So the unconscious is everything you don’t know. So it knows everything that you don’t know. Imagine that, it’s like the internet. In one of the studies that just came out two weeks ago that

Jannine Krause (21:55.565)
You

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (22:01.314)
just blew my mind, MIT put it out. They said our brain frequency when we’re thinking and meditating extends out 10,000 miles. So you’re actually broadcasting a frequency like a radio station or a TV station up to 10,000 miles away from you. And they know it affects people. So when you’re around the gainers in your life, those people that help you to feel good and feel, and then you have those drainers, know, when you, when they’re done, you go, man,

Jannine Krause (22:21.966)
Wow.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (22:30.968)
That was my last good nerve or you you say or you go they drain me, know, there’s people like that. They’re literally it’s the mitochondria that absorbs the light. And if they don’t have enough energy, they’re going to find people they can suck that energy off. It’s not sci-fi anymore. This is neuroscience and it’s really spooky because you know, when you’re around people that uplift you, that motivate you, they keep you like if you have a good practitioner like yourself in your center, then people go, they leave there and they’re energized. It’s almost

Jannine Krause (22:34.947)
Yep. Yep.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (22:59.372)
It’s just as important to be in that energy field as it is to get the treatment. I know people that walk into a chiropractor and they feel they get an adjustment just by walking in. Like they feel their back crack because it’s energy. It’s all energy. And their brain was anticipating it. And then it happened because the spine will align because the brain tells it to. The brain moves the muscles, which moves the bones and ligaments and tendons. Those ligaments and tendons and bones don’t do anything on their own.

That’s why you have to that connection with the brain and the body. Now almost everything else, and we have 6,000 square feet here and you’re welcome to come down to the lab and see it. We do lot of, we do brain scans, we look at blood work and we can talk about that too and all those things. But we show almost every biohacking piece of equipment here. We have 6,000 square feet of it. It’s like a playground and our doctors can come and spend a day here and we show them it all. But we show them how it works with the neuro check.

So we’re not guessing, we’re testing. Nothing moves the needle. I’m saying absolutely nothing moves the needle better than brain tap. We see the biggest results because once, if you think about it, the energy starts in the brain, moves down the spine, out to the limbs. But if you can put energy out here in the body, but if the brain doesn’t connect to it, that’s the hard way.

Jannine Krause (24:07.331)
That’s it.

Jannine Krause (24:25.623)
Yeah.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (24:25.934)
But if you can do them both at the same time, that’s why we love partnering in what we call bio-stacking. You you’re to stack different modalities at the same time to get them to work in coordination. So we do have vagal stimulators here that do work. So they might use a vagal stimulator, especially somebody that’s really compromised. You you need to be like Rambo then. You don’t want to be like, you know, a Pollyanna or something. You want to…

You want to, you got to hit them with everything because their energy system needs to, needs an upgrade. And so that’s what we do.

Jannine Krause (24:59.319)
love the multi-level stacking approach. And this is something we’re trying to work with at our center because we’re finding that the sicker, people are getting sicker and sicker and more deregulated. And of course, this is kind of a segue into something that I would like to talk about. Cause you were talking about 5G. We have this thing called the social media and TikTok and Instagram, but we also have this phenomenon of all these games that people are trying, they’re

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (25:21.454)
Yeah.

Jannine Krause (25:27.961)
commercials on TV trying to suck people into these games where they’ll make money. What have you seen? Have you guys tested the impact of someone doing one of those types of games and then coming in?

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (25:37.282)
Yes, you’ve ever, we’ve measured a child’s brain before and after playing a game, and we’ve also done it live through time. And what we find is about an hour on the game is about what they should do. The problem isn’t the game. The problem is they’re not getting recovery after the game, because they’re stressing their brain out. Actually, their brain looks like somebody on crack cocaine or something. It’s crazy, because what they’re doing is they keep exciting the body. When you talk about stress and cortisol and sugar release,

They’re burning their body out and they’re just young people. So what are they gonna be when that’s why we have 30 and 40 year olds getting dementia because they’re burning out the system and playing that game is even though it appears that it’s just a fun little game maybe or maybe you’re playing a single shooter game which is crazy, you know that you’re doing that but what happens is you’re actually your brain like right now as we’re talking you’re looking at a computer screen right that computer screen has millions of LEDs. Believe it or not you are predicting

Jannine Krause (26:09.55)
Yes.

Jannine Krause (26:13.528)
Yes.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (26:35.862)
if they’re gonna turn red, green or blue, every one of them. Just like in the movie with Dustin Hoffman, Rain Man, when they dropped the toothpicks on the ground, he said, 1,237. They go, how do know that? He said, I just counted them. We all can do that, but our brain has something, and the best way I can explain it is nose blindness. If you know somebody who lives near a dump, and then we have sound blindness if you live near an airport, we have, because…

or a train track and somebody says, how can you live here? That train goes by just rattles me. I don’t even hear the train anymore. I don’t even hear the airplane. I don’t smell because the brain is really good at shutting them down. And that’s good and bad. What if you have mold in your house? And you turn off the, because you didn’t move, the brain goes, it must not be a problem. So I’m going to turn off that. I’m going to turn that, that warning light off. It’s like putting a black piece of tape over your light on your engine. It says, do your engine. And you said, we know, I don’t want to see that. I’m going to put.

Jannine Krause (27:17.069)
Yeah.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (27:32.888)
piece of black tape over it. And this is what medicine does. You know, when people take medicine, and I think medicine, and I’m just going to give you a couple examples, all SSRIs were approved for 14 days of use, which means they’re met for critical situations to help that person get out of that stuck state, but then they’re supposed to get back to normal. But most doctors will tell you, take 28 days for it to work. Now, what do you mean? It takes 28 days to get you addicted. And then your brain gets patterned, then it’s hard as hell to get off of those things.

Jannine Krause (27:59.662)
Mm-hmm.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (28:03.138)
But your brain creates its own neurotransmitters. Why would you need a serotonin uptake inhibitor? Your brain wants the serotonin of this moment. We did a study in Brazil because opioids were approved for four weeks of use only. So they’re giving them to people for life. Sometimes, I mean, I had a brother-in-law that had a surgeon who said, you’re going to have to take this pill the rest of your life for pain. Why would that be? Your body is changing at a rate of 50 million cells per second. Your DNA is re-braiding every 40 seconds.

You’re completely new person in two to four years. So I mean every cell is different. Why would you sentence somebody to life? By taking a pharmaceutical. It’s a it’s a lifestyle issue. So what we did in Brazil, we had a graduate student at install university down there That’s one of the largest universities in Brazil, which were partners with their neuro lab and the graduate student tracked people doing surgery They gave them opioids for four weeks half of them got brain tap

Half of them didn’t. At the end of four weeks, we said, okay, get off your opioids. Our group with Brain Tap all got off them, 100%. The group that didn’t have Brain Tap didn’t because you can’t have the pill without the skill. Your brain creates its own pharmacy. 30,000 different neurochemicals with a simple thought. But if you can train the brain to do anything that’s external, that’s affecting you.

Jannine Krause (29:11.161)
Bye.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (29:26.646)
One more example for them so they understand. We were doing a study in Dallas with Dr. Rosenthal on PTSD and they were using a psilocybin. At the time I had never done psilocybin. I don’t do it, I’ve done it a few times but it takes a long time. It takes like eight hours out of your, it’s like playing golf. You gotta invest a lot of time and I can do the same thing in 20 minutes with Brain Tap. So what I did was I basically said, let’s map the brains of these people on a psilocybin because we had a number of these.

Jannine Krause (29:34.073)
Mm-hmm.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (29:55.596)
Veterans that did not want to take a psilocybin, you know, they thought they’d become addicted to it and they already had alcohol problems But that’s not true about a psilocybin. They use it to get people off these drugs But I didn’t want we didn’t want to argue with them. We wanted to the study So what we did was we said we mapped the brain and we found that there’s a region of the brain just to the right of the hippocampus That lights up with high gamma So we created a gamma series Dr. Rosenthal calls me back. He says you know what? I’ve never taken a psilocybin, but I’m having the same trips they’re talking about

You said in some of our veterans are having a psilocybin trips with no psilocybin. Because we activated every cell of your body when you’re in theta or you’re in gamma, your body produces something called GABA. GABA is a neurotransmitter that is like the most researched out there right now. And GABA is a precursor to DMT. So it tells the, instructs the body and every cell of your body has this molecule they call the God molecule. Because if you can unlock DMT in the system, you can heal anything.

That’s where when people, the spontaneous healings you read about and learn about in science, they say, well, there’s big blast of DMT that moves through the system. It basically corrects everything. That’s why they call it the God molecule. So it just puts everything right. So our brain is the part that does that. And every muscle, by the way, is like a little pharmacy too. That’s why we need muscle on the body. We need to do resistance training and things like that to keep our muscle base. I’m simplifying it somewhat here, but it’s…

you know, it’s part of the equation.

Jannine Krause (31:25.209)
Absolutely, absolutely. You know, it leads me back to thinking about healing anything.

Because I work in a clinic where we’re looking at chronic Lyme, we’re looking at chronic mold toxicity, but not chronic mold toxicity, but chronic mold illness. We’re looking at even women that are also going through perimenopause, menopause at the same time. I’m going, okay, you know, clearly these bugs also have a frequency. These mycotoxins have a frequency. How do you intersect with that? Is it more like the better vibration you’ve got, the more you can shake the bugs out, the more you can get them into the lymph and clear it out?

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (32:00.378)
Well, we actually use a product that was researched in Korea, spent over $25 million and used by the Swiss Performance Institute that came to visit me. They have 40,000 Olympic athletes under contract. And they asked me, what do I do for gut health? I said, well, we leave that up to the nutritionists because they know better than we do. But we believe in gut biome and all that. So they came up with something called Energy Up Biotics.

and it actually replaces your gut biome, it works better than that feces transplant that only works for six weeks and then your body goes back. They’ve created a product that actually destroys the old microbiome and reinstalls an ancient biome, your ancient biome. And they’ve proven it in science. And we’ve had some miracles happen with people like with Crohn’s disease and all sorts of things when they start taking this probiotic.

that is, it’s very easy to use. In fact, when we’re done, I’ll send you the link. You can share it with the listeners. But you have to order it from Switzerland. it delivers in three days. It’s not very expensive. But you do a three month trial. You do a three month with that. But I believe you should be taking some kind of probiotic all the time because we’re being bombarded. We’re 55 % other things. Those bugs you’re talking about, we’re only 45 % human.

You know, so when you think about it, that’s why we need to get our gut in harmony with our brain and between our ears and our heart. All these, you know, the gut brain is the biggest brain. It has more neuron connections than a brain between our ears. So in what’s controlling those is our microbiome. We have microbiome, also we have brain biome. So if you have a leaky gut, I can guarantee you, you have a leaky brain.

because you’re not detoxifying the brain. And we can talk about sleep maybe a little bit too and talk about why that’s important and how BrainTap helps.

Jannine Krause (33:54.317)
Yes.

Jannine Krause (33:58.191)
Yes, let’s talk about sleep because you know the leaky leaky gut component and all of that I feel like it goes hand-in-hand if the guts off the sleeps off because it seems there’s there’s deep connections there

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (34:00.214)
Okay.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (34:10.542)
Yeah, because your body has a foreign invader. It basically, you know, when you have that loose cellular structure and those proteins leak out into the lymph system and then into the body, it’s a toxic environment. So the body’s saying, hey, we can’t be sleeping right now. We got to go do, and most of the time, the reason they’re waking up actually is because they don’t have energy. The body’s saying, get up and eat because they’ve locked out, they’re locked out all of their energy and the stored fat is a lot of energy.

but they’ve never got to the second phase of digestion where they’re burning their body fat and getting ketones to their brain. Most people don’t realize when you eat food, you should wait at least four hours to six hours before eating food, depending on how fast your transit time is, but you need to get the food you’ve consumed out of first phase digestion. Second phase digestion is feeding your brain because now your body’s going to tap into fat stores and give you ketones to keep you thinking right. And so it’s an energy equation again. So imagine this.

back in 2015, they find a new part of the human anatomy. Before 2015, every physiology in the book in the world, the lymph system stops here. But then during a sleep study, some doctor recognizes this glial lymphatic system. So think of the glia system, the glia cells. These are like networkers. So you’re at a network meeting, you’re shaking hands. At the end of the night, you want to wash your hands. Well, this happens when you’re sleeping because spinal fluid comes up through the spine.

and your skull actually pulses. This is the pump and it washes over the glial cells. And then when you reach level four sleep, this glial lymphatic system, a system that wasn’t even known about before 2015, opens up and you detox. We need at least an hour of deep sleep, two hours of REM sleep, and we can crush any sleep score. We did a study in Australia with coal miners and when we did the…

They call it a washout study and we did a pre-study. So what we did was we studied them for two weeks before we started the study, because we wanted to know what their baseline was. The average coal miner slept 10 hours a night, but only got one minute of deep sleep. Zero rim. They were in bed, but they weren’t sleeping. The misconception about sleep is I’m in bed, I must be sleeping. No, we need to unwind the body. That’s where brain tip comes in. It steps you down into delta, lets you go.

Jannine Krause (36:27.565)
Right.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (36:34.636)
Now if you don’t have brain tap right now, then you could practice doing a four eight breath, where you breathe into the conifer, this triggers the parasympathetic, I mean the sympathetic system, then you breathe out to the conivate, which triggers the parasympathetic system. And while you’re breathing in, you’re gonna think about your day, but don’t try to solve any problems, just think about it. Your brain knows what to do about it. And then when you’re breathing out, think of everything you’re grateful for. It could be just as simple as the pillow you’re on, the bed you’re in, the person laying next to you, the room you’re in, the house you have.

the job you have, whatever you’re grateful for, because this is gonna help you to become a more positive, optimistic person. It’s gonna set you up with energy. And then once you unwind the body, most people don’t, when you go to sleep, you don’t wanna just fall asleep. You wanna lay there for a little bit. You wanna unwind the body. That’s why some people are gnawing their teeth, or clenching their body, because they haven’t unwound. Every cell is like a transducer. A transducer and electric circuit holds a charge to a certain.

discharge point and we all have a discharge point, right? And unfortunately that’s usually the people that we love, we discharge on them. know, so, but we want to learn to discharge because when we’re, when we have high energy, high frequency, we can deal with a lot of things. But if we have low frequency, that’s when we can’t handle the stresses, the strains, the confusions of the day. So sleep, think of sleep as the time when you’re building your superpowers.

your ability to say no to sugar, your ability to say no to alcohol, your ability to say yes to activities, your ability to read books, all of these, these are superpowers because not everybody can do them. And every superhero, this is for the listeners, every superhero had to go through the dark night of the soul. If they’re coming to your clinic, if you’re going through some kind of something with your body, you are developing your superpower. You’re finding out what your kryptonite is. So you can put it in a lead box and you can go about,

Jannine Krause (38:25.977)
Thanks.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (38:28.918)
saving yourself, but then save the world. Because whatever you do, you are helping your family and friends. In epigenetics now, our epigenetic scientists said that seven generations are influencing you right now. Now the Hopi Indians said seven generations are guiding them right now. So how did the ancient traditions know about this new modern, neuroscience is beginning to sound more and more like a religion than it is a science because there’s this woo woo factor in.

Jannine Krause (38:41.89)
Wow.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (38:55.904)
in quantum physics because we are light generating quantum machines. And we have a lot more potential than we’re activating. Now we use a lot of our brain. In fact, they say we use 100 % of our brain, but we don’t use 100 % of its potential. So, and think about the body. If they found this in 2015, what other dormant systems are in the body that can help us through these times? We have to get into that relaxed state, into a state of acceptance and let the body develop because we’re not done evolving yet.

We can activate different systems in the body. If people like Wim Hof, if you look up Wim Hof on YouTube, he’s a kind of a crazy guy that does his deep breathing exercises, but they actually injected him with poison and he breathed it out of his body. Now he’s not a super human, he’s just a person, but what he did was he knows how to activate his immune system at such a high level through breath that they kept poisoning him. That’s a superpower. And he teaches other people to do it and other people are doing it.

Jannine Krause (39:33.677)
Yes.

Jannine Krause (39:39.171)
home.

Jannine Krause (39:50.393)
That’s crazy.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (39:53.56)
So I mean, these are things that we’re in the threshold now of some really great discoveries of the human anatomy. And we’re being challenged. And stress is when evolution happens. And some people go, gosh, Dr. Porter, I would love you to just get rid of all my stress. I said, that will happen one time in your life. It’s called death. All the stress in your body will leave. You will too. Three quarters of an ounce leaves. They don’t know what that is. That’s you. But your body is no longer animated. That’s why they have dead weight and live weight.

So when you think about your body, who you are is not the body. Your job is to preserve this body, to work with this body, just like you would if you had a Lamborghini. You wouldn’t put bad gas in a Lamborghini, but you’ll put sodas into your body, or you’ll have sugar drinks and sugar foods, and you have to think. Then you complain, my body’s giving up on me, my body’s not working right. Well, no, your body’s doing exactly what it can do with the information you give it.

And everything is information to the body. If you eat a candy bar, that’s information. The body has to break it down into its usable cell systems and organs and turns it into energy that then the body can use and then eliminates what it can’t. So if we get it, I always tell people the best foods are God’s labels. There are no labels because if it has a canned bottle or a wrapper and it has ingredients you can’t read, you probably can’t digest it. It’s gonna cause a toxic environment. That’s why I say you cannot think a bad diet.

Jannine Krause (40:57.337)
you

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (41:21.378)
fix your diet. know, even if it’s just drinking half your body’s weight of ounces of water first, that’s the first step for most people because they’re coffees, teas, and herbal teas are okay, but if you’re drinking black tea and coffee and sodas, you are creating a toxic environment and you’re disrupting digestion, which means you never get into fat burning. That’s why diet sodas don’t drink. I’ve never met a skinny person drinking diet sodas. So obviously they don’t work, you know.

Jannine Krause (41:47.308)
Nah.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (41:49.979)
What’s the deal with that? You know, there should be a lot of skinny people drinking these diet sodas that are out

Jannine Krause (41:56.714)
yes, yes,

fun, interesting phenomenon, interesting phenomenon. Now moving into that, because I think it is one of those things where women, as they’re moving into perimenopause, menopause, they will start to gravitate towards weight gain and what do I do and how do I get all over these types of symptoms. And I always talk about we’re changing fuel. And I’m kind of basing it a little bit from Chinese medicine because we talk about the kidney and the heart energy in Chinese medicine, but we’re also talking about switching from ovaries to adrenals for where the hormones are coming from.

also got to be because boy is there a lot of mental stuff that goes on in this time frame. Boy there’s got to be a lot of energetic shift and I’d love to hear your take on that.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (42:39.086)
Yeah, we’re creating a whole series for perimenopause. And one of our natural medicine doctors is actually, we’re partnering with that she’s putting it together. It’ll be available on Brain Tap. But what we know is, of course, you gotta change your diet. In India, they actually say, eat three meals a day, be sick. Eat two meals a day, be well. Eat one meal a day, you have excellent health. I’m not saying fast every day like that, but some women can’t fast the same way. So you gotta be careful. But you wanna…

Think in terms of whatever you’re eating right now, you’re probably eating way too much. Because the stomach is only the size of your fist. So that you should not overfill the stomach. Now, at first that stomach is stretched out. So, and the apostate, which is your minds, there’s a difference between hunger and appetite. Hunger’s in the body, appetite’s in the mind. So we need to turn off that switch, that satisfaction. And you do that by slowly eating.

what they call mindfulness eating. Enjoy the taste, the smell of food. Don’t watch TV. But if you can be with a conversation with people, they find that’s good. Even praying before meals or just doing some breathing exercises before meals, they show that when the body’s in more parasympathetic state, you’ll absorb, use the energy from the food you’re consuming. In fact, Virginia Hunt at UCLA actually proved that when you pray over your food, you actually raise the energy or the vibration of the food.

Jannine Krause (44:03.801)
What?

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (44:03.918)
So there’s a lot of, because we’re broadcasting photons all the time, we’re broadcasting energy. So we can direct that energy. So I think that with paraminopause, of course we all go through cycles and we’re gonna go through things. And so we have to change our lifestyle, know, during those times. Maybe you need to have what Tom Brady says is for every one minute of exertion, you need two minutes of recovery.

So if you’re having exertion, and that can include your sleep. So when you think about your day, how stressful it was, do you need, the average person only needs six and a half hours sleep, but it needs to be efficient sleep. That’s why some people think, I need eight hours, I need 10 hours. No, you need one hour of deep sleep, two hours of REM sleep. The rest is really just to give you the time, because it doesn’t happen all at once, that you’re going through a cycle. And as you’re going through that cycle, your brain is actually building up your neurotransmitter bank account.

Now, if you didn’t need that much neurotransmitters to fill up, once all those buckets are full, you wake up. You’re 100%. So as we age, happens is all those systems kind of slow down because of, could be thoughts, traumas or toxins, right? That’s the key thing. So it could be their thoughts. We were all led to believe that as we grow old, we get stupider. But the reality is I’ve never met an ancient culture that said, I keep the wisdom of the tribe with the youngsters. They kept the wisdom of the tribe with the elders.

So that must mean we’re doing something wrong with our brain. You we need to stay active, we need to eat right, we need to stay, you know, active doing things. You know, we should have an actively good brain until we go. You know, we don’t know when that return ticket is, but you wanna have a functioning brain. Like my grandmother, who was 93, I went in, I caught her one time, I was staying with her and she was, I thought she was on the phone. So she came out and said, I was gonna come in and talk to you about it, you were on the phone. She said, I wasn’t on the phone.

So what were you doing? She says, I was remembering all my favorite vacations. And she would do it out loud. She was running the positive memories in her head. She had a perfect memory until she died. Like only about two months before she died, she started having like Lewy body experiences and things like that because her brain dysregulated because she didn’t eat right. I mean, she always told me, she goes, you’re eating like this. She says, when you get older, I hope you’re happy.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (46:25.902)
And I said, grandma, I’m not eating this way when I get older. I’m eating this way so I feel good now. I said, you feel terrible every day. You know, she, she complains about it, but she, but she does it. You know, my dad said she was too ornery to die, you know, so, but, but the, thing is that some, but I think it was because she, she would replay all the positive memories and she’d play golf in her mind every day, just like the, the Hanoi Hilton, those guys did when they were in prison and they, and they, they came out fine.

Jannine Krause (46:31.865)
Yeah.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (46:52.856)
where the other people that thought this just dwelled on the pain and the misery didn’t. So our mind plays a big role in this. So with perimenopause, you can go into it thinking, man, just like childbirth, for instance, we have a childbirth, a stress-free childbirth program. When I was with the Arizona Health Council, I had to work with pregnant teens. And the most exciting thing was when I could get them telling jokes between contractions and their mothers or fathers, whoever was the single parent that was with them was saying, aren’t they supposed to be in pain right now? I said, that’s an option, but pain’s an option to the body.

Jannine Krause (47:21.113)
Yes.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (47:23.096)
So we taught them the body is designed to give birth, but we have to relax into it. And the body can do it. The body’s designed to go through perimenopause. We have to relax into it. But we have to feed it right different nutrition maybe, different activities. This stress is telling you something has to change. So remember, if you’re changing something, you can always go back to what doesn’t work. So change something and see if it works. If it works, great, congratulations.

you can always go back to your baseline and see, no, that didn’t work for me. Okay, I’m gonna try something new. But you have to give the nervous system, when you’re talking about, the nervous system resets every 72 hours. So whatever you do, whether it’s PMF, brain tap, adjustment, whatever it is, your brain is gonna start going back to whatever it thinks your neurological norm is. And so if we can disrupt that pattern by doing daily practices.

Jannine Krause (48:13.337)
Hmm.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (48:19.852)
like breathing techniques, eating healthy, exercising. These are disrupting the nervous system and putting it back into a positive light. If you don’t do anything, the body will dysregulate and before you know it, it will unwire because this is called neuropruning. The more you do things different and novel, your brain does something called neurogenesis. We can’t go back and save the brain cells that we lost in college by doing crazy things. But what we can do is we can build new neurons.

Our brain is designed to build new ones. That’s called neurogenesis, but you have to have neuroplasticity for that to happen. That’s the energy in the brain. remember it’s a voltage problem. bet if we looked at anybody going through perimenopause, they have dropped below 10.1 volts. They’re probably between nine and seven volts. If they don’t do something about their brain health, they’re gonna drop into seven. They’re gonna drop into four because the brain energy is the key. And that’s why…

your work with acupuncture or chiropractic, it helps to continue to breathe. It’s an energy system, it’s a give and take. It’s not a one way system. It’s like biofeedback, it’s electrical feedback. And we need to keep the brain energy high so that it can feed the right information to the body to keep us balanced, to keep us thinking, to keep us positive, happy and healthy.

Jannine Krause (49:38.508)
I absolutely agree. And the more I work with energy, the more I see that. So one quick question before we kind of get into telling folks how they can find out more and definitely about the perimenopause study that you’re doing and more information there. What is your favorite sequence to run right now? What are you working on right now with Brain Tap? What are you geeking out on for your daily routine?

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (49:38.638)
Thank

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (49:47.544)
Thank

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (50:02.228)
Well, I always do at least two sessions a day. If I’m traveling, I do three. Because in the morning, I need to wake up my brain, we call it digital coffee. And I never drink coffee. I do like coffee, but I only have one cup typically. In some days, I don’t have it. But if I do have it, I’m gonna have it either in the afternoon or at 10 o’clock. After I do a session, and two hours before awakening. But what I do before that is I have…

a PMF at my house, I do a PMF for 10 minutes, I do my light therapy, I have a headlight, the cosine and a gut pad, so I have my brain-gut connection. And then I also have an infrared sauna, and I also have a salt chamber. So I get up a couple hours early. For me, because I’m 64 and I plan to be playing with my grandkids as long as they let me, and hopefully their grandkids when they come around, you know, I’m not gonna be one of those guys sitting in a wheelchair complaining. I’m gonna be active.

And so I’ve got to keep my body. Everybody should be training like they’re in the Olympics. It’s your Olympics. But I mean, even going to get groceries or twisting and turning to get in the car, if you’re starting to get aches and pains, that’s a sign that we need to build muscle. We need to get the body going. We need the energy systems online. So for me, it’s an all day thing. During the day, like when we get done with this interview, when it gets very around two o’clock, if you looked at my schedule, it will say brain tap.

Jannine Krause (51:25.955)
Nice.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (51:25.998)
because at two o’clock, I know the power of that. When we did a study with Google and Microsoft with Julie Arndt, it’s a Ted talk right now about peak performance. She talks about using brain tech, because she asked me, they were having burnout there. They want to know how can we fix burnout? And I said, well, have them do a session at two o’clock in the afternoon, because this is the normal time for the body to have this neurological crash. We’re supposed to be taking naps, like on the Serengeti. We’re not the lion chasing the zebra.

Jannine Krause (51:47.395)
that.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (51:54.542)
two o’clock, but what happens is people will do stimulus, right? They’ll do coffees, teas, and chocolates, and they’ll stay going or they’ll force themselves through it. And when you’re younger, you can do that, but when you’re older, like in perimenopause, you can’t do that anymore. You don’t have the energy to do that. So we need a reboot. Now that reboot could be a theta session or it could be a beta or a gamma session. These are high energy sessions. When you leave them, it’s like you got four hours of sleep in 20 minutes, and you have this energy, and we’ve recorded it.

So remember the average person has a 27.3 % neurological improvement just by one 20 minute session. now that’s not gonna always be 27.3, because once you get regulating like me, I regulate almost 100 % all the time, because I’ve been doing this for 40 years. And my brain regulates like a 31 year old when I do all the testing. it’s not like you don’t, when Wayne Dyer said, never let an old person inhabit your body, I took him seriously.

We gotta keep our attitudes high, we gotta eat right, we gotta move and breathe. And I usually do bone broth in the morning and I do greens in the morning. That’s my morning time. Now sometimes when I’m out and about, I will have breakfast, but I like to have my breakfast at noon. Just cause it works good for me. Some people do it differently than me, but when I’m eating the greens and that, that is a meal, but there’s really no calories, it’s just all energy. I’m looking for energy in the morning to…

because I need that energy to get me going. And then in the afternoon, I will eat a light meal. And then at dinner, sometimes I’ll just have some kind of soup and maybe some grains or something like that, or some salad. Usually we eat a lot of greens throughout the day too, but I don’t take a chance. I use energy bits so I can get mine. Cause I know that our salads are not the same as they were 40 years ago, where they say that takes…

20 oranges to get the same vitamin C we used to get in the 1980s. but to me, it’s a lifestyle. It’s not just one thing. Now at Brain Tap itself, what we’re excited about is we have all these different studies going on. We have seven studies going on right now and we published 33 of them. Ever since COVID, university has been jumping all over it because people have, they realize they’re under stress and social media doesn’t help. Cause all you see is everybody’s best day, right? Nobody has a bad day in social media.

Jannine Krause (54:02.19)
Well.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (54:16.522)
Or if they do, they get booed off there. They go, what are you doing? This is a place for, this is where excitement happens and everybody’s always winning. And that’s not life. When Mike Tyson said, everybody has a plan till they get hit. You have to have a plan for when you get hit. So for me, that’s why when I’m traveling, I say I do three because every hour in the air is equivalent to an X-ray. So it robs you of your energy. I have one paper that I wrote and published was,

Jannine Krause (54:28.025)
Yeah.

Jannine Krause (54:41.036)
sense.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (54:45.568)
It was a trip to Spain. And what I did was I didn’t use any of my biohacking, my health optimization. I just wanted to see what happens to my body. I didn’t feel any different. But when I landed, I measured myself before and I measured myself in the executive lounge in Madrid. I lost 70 % of my energy on that flight. And I didn’t feel it at all. So that meant that’s what they call jet lag. But it’s not jet lag, it’s light lag.

The light codes, my body didn’t know what it was doing at 25,000 feet, 500 miles an hour. going, what the heck? Because it’s always looking at the environment saying, where am I at? What am I doing? Am I balanced? Am I okay? And when you’re in, now on my conscious mind, I knew I was safe. I was sitting there reading a book or watching a movie or whatever I was doing or meditating even. And then I also did my practices, which is to, there’s actually a product for EMF.

that is actually the only product that actually will protect you from EMF and we use it here. And it was designed for the government for actually during when they dropped the H-bomb and they found out there was certain supplements that can protect you from EMF radiation. So when I’m flying, I’ll take a little bit more of those than I do on the normal day. And then I will also not eat the food on the airplane.

Because when you eat, if you have HRV, you’ll find that your HRV goes down just by eating. And that’s normal. That’s why if you can get out and do a brisk walk after you eat, you actually speed up your metabolism. Because now you’re going to get the sugar out of the muscles. And now the food you just consumed, now you can get new sugar that in your body becomes a more functioning metabolic machine than rather, and just a little bit of walking even. And in fact, I’ve just been doing a lot of interviews with Fox about the new study that.

actually came out from Mayo Clinic that showed even a 10 minute walk can decrease your chances of dementia by 40%. So it’s all about movement, breath, getting your body aligned, getting your energy to flow, and it’s a lifestyle. So it’s not just one thing. I wish I could say one thing, but we’re always doing, we believe that brain tap is an important part of it, and it’s something that some place that people can start because it’s not expensive, and the whole family can do it.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (57:10.99)
So that’s one of the bigger things. Like PMF can be $20,000. Not a lot of people are gonna buy PMF for their home. Or a salt chamber for $4,000 even. They’re not gonna do that. there’s things that I do that other people might not, but I get them for the clinic and then some of them make their way to my house. That’s the way it works.

Jannine Krause (57:33.668)
Of course, of course, yeah, that’s how it’s worked in mine too. You know, find out what you really like and yeah, it makes its way over.

Absolutely, mean, so many good things to take away here, especially the concept of we do have to stack things. We have to find out what works for us. A little bit more exploration there. And most importantly is the vibe and really working on your want your positive vibe because boy, I can tell you changing, changing your mood, uplifting yourself, surrounding yourself with with folks who are uplifted just makes a world of difference and great place to start. Wow.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (58:04.888)
Yes.

Jannine Krause (58:09.305)
Patrick, great stuff here. I learned a ton. I know folks are gonna definitely have a great, great learning experience here with this podcast. And so I am looking forward to definitely putting our show notes together here. Of course, braintap.com. You guys can even try it out. 14 days trial membership there, see if you like it. Now, in terms of the research study, was 30 days or so. You’ll have it out there on the perimenopause as well.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (58:32.91)
Yes, we’re working on it right now and she’s doing her recordings, we’re encoding them. They’ll probably go up in stages. There’ll be enough for six weeks of use and it’ll be spelled out like this is week one, week two, week three, week four. And then people can follow along with the research study that the doctor’s doing. Now they’re doing it, we’re doing a lot of other measurements and things like that and having them take like the Pittsburgh quality of sleep.

and scoring it and all these other things. we’ll share, mean, all of our doctors, like your doctor, will get access to that research. And we put it, you usually do a press release. We usually tell people about it. hopefully within here, within three months, we’re gonna have a really good, I’m sure we are, because she did it for herself first. So that’s why she knows it’s gonna work. And then she wants to prove it out with, you know, doing a bigger study.

Jannine Krause (59:28.203)
Awesome, awesome, can’t wait for that. And then of course we’ll link the ancient microbiome probiotic that you mentioned as well in here and then we’ll have a code for you guys and I’ll get that at the end here when we wrap up. So thank you so much Dr. Patrick Porter for coming on. I really sincerely appreciate it. Look forward to seeing what you guys have coming up in new research beyond the perimenopause in the upcoming years.

Patrick Porter, Ph.D. (59:51.726)
That’s great, thank you. Thanks for having me.

Jannine Krause (59:54.33)
pleasure.