Ep 417: The Connection Between Intimacy and Longevity With Susan Bratton

Research has shown those who maintain a healthy sexual relationship are happier and look 10 years younger on average.  Lowered libido and painful sex are the top two complaints by women heard in many doctors offices. Unfortunately, society’s portrayal of intimacy and how things actually work as well as age down below for women have been skewed.  The good news is intimacy can improve with age and keep getting better; even if you and your partner seem to have lost your rhythm or never had it.  Susan Bratton is the intimacy expert to millions and is on a mission to help adults learn how to get and receive the intimate experience they’ve heard about or thought they lost with age. In this episode of The Health Fix Podcast Dr. Jannine Krause and Susan Bratton have an open conversation on the myths about women’s anatomy, mastering the tissue changes with age and tips on how to enhance intimacy at any age for men and women. 

Resources From The Show: 

• Susan Bratton’s Website
• Susan’s Organic nitric oxide boosting supplements
• Better Lover – How to Give a Yoni Massage
• Orgasmic Crosstraining
• Pleasure Protocol with Foria Intimate Oil & Melts
• Joy Lux Vaginal Red Light Therapy
• Intercourse tips to give women pleasure

Our Partners

Podcast Transcript

JANNINE: [Intro] Welcome to the Health Fix Podcast where health junkies get their weekly fix of tips, tools and techniques to have limitless energy, sharp minds and fit physics or life. Hey health junkies on this episode of the Health Fix Podcast. I have Susan Bratton on. She is the intimacy expert to millions and boy, do we have a great podcast for you today? Now before I get started, I must make a little warning. We’re going to be talking about intimacy. We’re going to be getting real on anatomy parts. So if you’ve got kiddos that might be listening while you’re playing this in the car or wherever you may be, you might want to think twice about it. So that being said, no vulgar language, none of that. It’s more a real conversation about everything pretty much. You’ve ever wondered about your female anatomy, but not only that. Also what’s going on is you get older with your tissues, what’s going on with sex, how to become a better lover, how to teach your partner what to do to give you the utmost pleasure. All the things that, you know, there’s a lot of stigmas around. But honestly, the more pleasure someone has in their life, the better they’re going to feel and the younger they’re going to look. And Susan even mentions that it shows 10 years younger that you can look up to 10 years younger when you are intimate up to three times a week. So longevity looking younger, who doesn’t want that? Really, this podcast is about empowering women, sharing this information with women, but also guys, this podcast could be great for you all too because you can learn a lot about our anatomy and how things work and how things change as we get older. And some of the really important things that we want to be addressing and staying on top of as we get older. This is a fabulous podcast, lots of great information and really great resources here all free. So folks, buckle up. This is a great podcast. You might blush a little, but you’re tolling in a smile and you’re going to be thinking, okay, what can I do to get going with some of Susan’s techniques like now? So let’s introduce you to Susan Bratton. 

JANNINE: Hey health junkies. I have Susan Bratton on today and we are going to be talking about lifelong intimacy, what that looks like and how to keep things spicy, healthy and just happy in the bedroom. So Susan, welcome to Health Fixed Podcast. 

SUSAN: Hi, Janine. I’m super happy to be here with you. I’ve been enjoying listening to your shows. I really particularly enjoyed the TCM one on the dear antler. That’s something that I’ve heard a lot about over time, but I didn’t really equate it with the growth factors. And that’s quite interesting. I’ve been taking Ipa Mourlin, CJC 1295 Ipa Mourlin TROKIs, which are now going to be outlawed—

JANNINE: Yes.

SUSAN: — from compounding pharmacies, which is pissing me off. And I’ve also injected some growth hormone here and there in my recovery from Long hall COVID. And so it was just really interesting to think about natural, sustainable alternatives to boosting growth hormone. I like that. And I want to talk to you about hormones because I’m so interested in them. I take them myself. I’m a proponent of hormone replacement therapy. And I feel like kindred spirits. I love Bastyr University graduates. I mean, that school churns out the smartest people in functional medicine for sure. So I’m super psyched to be here with you today. Thanks for having me and wanting to talk about specifically about sexuality intimacy, libido, desire, arousal, three different things we kind of use the same word for. 

JANNINE: True. It’s true. Well, now I’m, I’m blushing. 

SUSAN: Ah, good. 

JANNINE: You have definitely, um, spoke me up well with the Bastyr grads and things. So yeah, you know, with, with sexual health, it’s, it’s one of the things that folks come to me all the time and they’re like, Doc, you know, we dance around it a little bit. You know, there’s sometimes not that comfortable conversation where it’s like things aren’t right. Where are things not right? And like, like, oh, arrows. Okay, down below. Okay. Now what’s, what’s happening? What’s going on? And, and you know, like you were talking about the, the growth factors and things of that nature. A lot of times we’re, we’re thinking outside the box, um, in addition to adding in hormones and, and things of that nature. Well, you know, and, and what a lot of people are probably thinking right now like Susan, okay, what’s your story? How did you get into this and, and how did you get into working on sexual health? Like what’s, what brought you here? Give us the scoop? 

SUSAN: Well, a crisis, of course. 

JANNINE: Mm hmm. 

SUSAN: Like, like most of us, our greatest wound becomes our greatest gift. Uh, for the last two decades, I’ve been running two companies. One is called Personal Life Media and I’m a publisher of passionate love making techniques, bedroom communication skills and intimate wellness and sexual vitality, constructs, concepts, advice, etc. And those are really the three legs of a very solid stool with regard to your sex life and your sex span, which is very, very interesting. You know, we, we, we talk about the fifth vital sign of menstruation, right? Um, I think that sex span is kind of in that category where if you want to focus on anti-aging and longevity, then you have to be thinking about your sex span as a part of that. There’s nutrition, there’s diet, there’s sleep, and there’s sex. Because when you have intimacy three times a week or more and I’m using the word intimacy Janine, I’m not using word sex. 

JANNINE: Yeah. 

SUSAN: Very specifically because when I say sex, most 40 plus women are like, uh, count me out, I’m not having sex three times a week, like they’ve already given up on it. Yep. And though I honestly don’t feel like I can save people who’ve given up on it, that’s not really my job. I’m not a therapist and there’s a lot of extraneous things. I’m looking for the people who tuned into this episode of your show who said, hmm, my sex life is important to me. I want to know what Janine and Susan are saying because people who have regular intimacy and not just intercourse, but intimate pleasure look 10 years younger than their cohorts. They live a longer, healthier life. So all of the benefits of regular intimacy such as rebooting your nervous system, the vascular event of orgasmic pleasure, lighting up your brain in multiple locations from orgasmic activation, which is something I’d like to talk to you about today actually. I think you’d be interested in that. The flood of neurotransmitters and hormones that come from it. The conjoined kind of co-regulation, the limbic pleasure system, the endocannabinoid pleasure healing pathway. I mean, that’s just some of the cascade of physical and physiologic benefits of intimate pleasure. And when you have that many benefits of something, it’s just like going for a good workout or eating a very nutritious meal or getting a 94 sleep score on your aura ring. It’s right up there. I mean, how you look on the outside if you can look 10 years younger than your cohorts. That’s indicative of the health of your insides. The outsides are just a reflection of the insides. And there have been studies done that show that people who have intimate relations three times a week or more look 10 years younger than their peers. If you look at the Dunedin Pace study of longevity, that New Zealand study, that True Diagnostics uses as a part of their giving you your biological, not your chronological age score. It’s four quadrants. How do you, how young do you look compared to your cohorts? What’s your grip strength? How’s your balance and how’s your cognitive function? And it’s damned important. So I think that for the people who are like, okay, I think my sexuality could use a reboot. It is important to me. What do I need to know and do? How can I have the best sex of my life as I age? At 62, for me personally, I am having the most pleasurable sex of my life. I have the most body confidence I’ve ever had. I’m the most orgasmic I’ve ever been. I’ve learned so many orgasm skills, communication skills. I’m really communicative in the bedroom. I give my partner, you know, kudos and appreciation. I tell him what I enjoyed. We have sexy talk. We share fantasies. Just the verbal piece of it is a big part of it. And all of these things are our personal growth and sexual growth are two sides of the same coin really. As we mature, we get better at sex. Old people are having the best sex when they put their attention on it. So it’s never over. It ain’t over till it’s over if you put your attention and intention on your sexuality. 

JANNINE: Makes sense. Makes sense. You know, it’s interesting because a lot of people think the opposite, right? They think as soon as I get to this age, it’s all over. Or folks have heard like the 40s are the best and after the 40s, you’ve gone beyond your sexual peak. So this is intriguing for— 

SUSAN: You know why? 

JANNINE: Yeah. 

SUSAN: You know why that is? You know why that belief is in there? 

JANNINE: Yeah. Why? Tell us.

SUSAN: Because sex was supposed to be for procreation only. So after menopause, you were obsolete. And so sex was over for you because you couldn’t make babies anymore. Are you kidding me? That’s such bullshit. Not to that the fact that at 62, I’m still menstruating because I’ve been using hormone replacement therapy. And I like menstruating because I have this thing, the stupid saying, please improve it. If you can, I’m open to refinement. But I say if she ain’t bleed and she’s receding, we have planned obsolescence. So one of the anti-aging and longevity strategies that I personally use is to take just an enough estrogen testosterone and progesterone to have a like a every six week lead for me now. Very light but still working. Interesting. 

JANNINE: Interesting because I know a lot of folks are like, oh, I can’t wait till it’s over. I want it to be over. I don’t want, you know, if I am working with hormone replacement and someone gets their period back, that is like a lot of people do not want to hear that or see that. 

SUSAN: I think it’s lifeblood. 

JANNINE: It goes into your concept of blood flow in general, like circulation. 

SUSAN: Yes. Yeah. That’s a really interesting thing too. You know, so I have two companies. One is personal life media where I have published the work of my mentors and I have had some absolutely incredible mentors. I’ve always believed in mentorships. So I’ve always pursued mentors and that’s helped me in my publishing business. Eventually create an ecosystem of techniques that have stood the test of decades of time, helping people find their pleasure together. And my other company is a supplement company and the supplements I make are very simple. One is a nitric oxide booster made from organic fruit and vegetables rather than a white powder made in a Chinese lab from corn liquor that’s been grown in a pesticide laden corn field and inoculated with a bacteria that can basically converts arginine, the bacteria, eat the arginine and poop out the citrally. That’s not what you want to take. Citrallyin is more effective for people in over 40. And by the time we’re 50, we have half the nitric oxide production capacity we had at 20. And that’s predicated on if we’re eating a lot of leafy green vegetables and beetroot which most people are not. And we’re not using antibacterial mouthwash which mouthwash which most people are. And we’re not using acid blockers and proton pump inhibitors which 16, 18, 20 million people in America are doing right now because they’ve got acid reflux because they’re eating so many white flour products and sugar products. So they’re getting all that acid reflux because they’ve lowered their stomach acid so now they’re lowering it even more. You can’t make your own nitric oxide if you do those things. That’s a chain reaction. And so nitric oxide is the thing that PDE5 inhibitors are based on like Viagra, Levitra, Cialis etc. And yet everybody talks about ED as a men’s problem when women have exactly the same amount of erectile tissue in our vulva as our male body partners have in their penis. And nobody is paying attention to female erectile dysfunction which means sensation loss, loss of lubrication, painful sex, incontinence and difficulty to achieve orgasm. JANNINE: Yeah, it’s definitely something that is not. I mean, we don’t have commercials on it, that’s for sure. Probably we don’t want the pharmaceutical medication for it anyway, but—

SUSAN:  That’s right. 

JANNINE: That being said, circulation obviously is an acupuncture— Circulation is everything and I talk about it a lot. 

SUSAN: Yeah. 

JANNINE: And really when it comes down to—

SUSAN: [inaudible]

JANNINE:  Yeah, yeah, it’s so many things are blocking it. And so I’ve noticed that when I was course going through all of your courses and different things that you have to offer for folks—

SUSAN: Oh nice.

JANNINE: —there are ways to stimulate circulation naturally for women, you know, besides the nitric oxide, which by the way, the synthetic, that’s a great description of what’s going on there. I think a lot of folks will take away a good tidbit from there. So give us a little scoop on some of the natural techniques that you can use in terms of intimate touch, things of that nature for helping with boosting circulation for females. 

SUSAN: Yeah, I think probably the single most important technique, pleasuring technique that couples who have a regular practice of this technique have the most satisfying intimacy of all couples. And that is something that’s essentially genital massage, but it’s in tantric love making, which is a more heart-connected, conscious, aware, not asleep, not hiding from your sexuality, not coming from a point of shame, but coming from a point of not only connecting to self and connecting to love or but connecting to source. Tantric love making, coals, genital massage, yoni massage and lingam massage. And I really like those words. I am an anatomy geek, a genital anatomy geek. I love every aspect of the penis, testicles, the scrotum, the perineum, the prostate, the bladder. I love it all. I love every part of the female genital system from the three erectile tissue structures of the clitoris, urethral sponge, perineal sponge. I love to explain to people what the vagina actually looks like and how it actually works versus the way that we’ve been using it in our patriarchy, pornographically infused view of sexuality, which is doing a disservice to the feminine body. And so I really like the spirit of the words yoni and lingam, which are these tantric or sunscript words for our entire urogenital system. Mind, body and spirit of it all, the entire nervous system that’s part of our genital structures, everything about our genital structures. And I like that they are holistic and encompassing. And so, and I also think they’re prettier than vulva, which is the outside of a vagina, which is only the inside or clitoris, which is only one third of the erectile tissue. And all of those are misses for me. All of those words are misses, where yoni for me is a hit. And I like it because it’s also cute. It’s like my little yoni, you know, it’s like yoni, it’s just such a cute little word. So I really try to promulgate that word out there to give people more vocabulary. And so they don’t have to come into your office and just point down, right? 

JANNINE: It’s a thing, it’s a thing. It is a thing. 

SUSAN: And then the lingam is a beautiful word for the men’s staff as well as all of his pleasure systems. And so yoni massage and lingam massage are a very loving, pleasurable, relaxing, limbically connecting, endocannabinoid stimulating, blood flow producing a pleasurable practice. It gets us away from sex’s intercourse. It expands the playing field of pleasure. And it gets us comfortable having our genitals touched and seen. And the more that we can look at our genitals, feel pleasure in our genitals, not be embarrassed by our genitals, have orgasmic sensation activated throughout our genitals, not just the tip of the clitoris or the entrance to the vagina. I just read this piece of research recently where it was like 41 women were touched by a nurse in this kind of like inventory of locations, clitoris opening to the vagina, outer labia, inner labia, breasts, nipples. And the results surprised me until I thought about it. The results were that 53, I’m going to say, percent of the women said that pleasure was felt in the vaginal opening area, the Introital sphincter. And only 40, something percent was felt in the clitoral structure. And that most of the spots that were touched were either numb or made them feel shame. And I thought to myself, and this is really where orgasmic activation comes in, I thought to myself, these are women who’ve never been touched in a loving way with warm oil, with nice lighting, with reverence and pleasure, with an unhurried touch. These are women who’ve been, you know, part of the grab a boob and stick it in, type of sexual mistreatment that is what we see in movies and in pornography as what sex is. And I thought to myself, if give me those 41 women, I will give them eight different kinds of pleasure tools. I will teach them about Yoni massage. All of a sudden, all their parts are going to be loved to be touched. They’re going to activate. They’re going to light up their brain. They’re going to start having orgasmic pleasure from the most lovely little light stimulation. And what I realized is that there’s just so many things that people hold off limits because they’ve had what I described versus, you know, originally versus what I just explained as a possibility. So I really want to have people thinking more about what I call orgasmic cross training, which is having Yoni massage that touches all the parts, learning to un-numb them, release the sadness and trauma that has affected most of us, to let all of that go, to awaken our G-spots, to awaken our vaginal areas, to awaken our cervical areas, to awaken our perineum, our inner labia, our outer labia, our mons, our breasts, our nipples, our necks, our mouths, our tongues, our throats, all these areas that are really the foundation of our pleasure activation. And I looked at all of the toys, the acting sex toys should be called tools, they are tools for pleasure. And there are basically eight different types of tools that a woman can use to fill up her pleasure chest and to do orgasmic cross training, activate different areas of our Yoni so that we become massively attuned to our pleasure and very multi orgasmic. And this is a placeholder for your listeners, what are those eight tools? There’s eight for the female body, there’s four for the male body, or vulva owners and penis owners, whatever you want to call them. I support gender expression, full rainbow, sparkle, gender expression. And they are at orgasmiccrosstraining.com. So if you’re like, I’d like to activate my Yoni, I’d like to learn more about how to do that. I’d like to let go of some of this armoring and this shutdown and awaken my body to pleasure. That orgasmiccrosstraining.com is the place where it shows you the different areas and what the different tools are that I recommend. 

JANNINE: Wow, that’s, I mean, that’s neat, that’s neat because I think for a lot of people, we don’t— I mean, sex ed in high school, let’s put it that way, is basically how not to get pregnant, right? 

SUSAN: It’s fear based education. 

JANNINE: it’s very boring. And then we move into getting married and we don’t know what to do with our partners. We kind of fumble our way through things. And so having some sense of how we can help each other, but also because of how you’re talking about, you know, circulation, but also the endocannabinoid system, helping light up the body. I think the vagus nerve is probably another thing that we should bring into the conversation here because so many folks are stressed, so many folks are, are feeling the pressures of, of the world, but yet you come home and there’s also that then block,

SUSAN: Pressure.

JANNINE:  yeah, pressure or block—

 SUSAN: Pressure to have sex. 

JANNINE: Yeah, yeah. Let’s talk about that a little bit in terms of helping women, you know, initiate a conversation with their, their men or, you know, whatever we’re partners, however, it works here to help, you know, bridge the gaps, start bringing in some of this massage. What, what if you, you know, that counseled folks on, I guess, probably the best word here or mentioned folks in terms of breaking, breaking those ice, breaking the ice there, that’s a good word. 

SUSAN: Yeah, yeah, I like that you called it bridging the gap because I call it crossing the gasm chasm, closing the orgasm gap, crossing the gasm chasm. What happens ultimately is, why did it all, why did it, how did it all get so screwed up? 

JANNINE: Yeah. 

SUSAN: And then how do we fix it? I think that’s really, that those are the two parts to the question and how it, how it got screwed up is that we have been living under a religious patriarchal perspective of what sexuality is. It’s for appropriation only, sex is intercourse, you know, all of those kinds of things. And then, you know, your, your genitals are dirty, it’s bad, you should be shamed, you know, all that Madonna or, you know, there’s like a million examples of all of that. What’s the view of, you know, how do you learn about sex, the movies and pornography, there’s no sex educa—, I just can’t, I mean, like everything is boom, boom, bar. So part of what the issue is is that, if people were having great sex and they were super happy, you’d be, they’d be very hard to control. And so it’s been a control mechanism, we’ve been controlled, especially women, we’ve been controlled. So the second piece of it is that the male body, you know, remember when I said that we have the same amount of erectile tissue as our male body partners. Yeah. So I think about a banana and you, if I was holding up a banana and I said, okay, well, it’s pretty easy to imagine this as a man’s penis. So half of his penis sticks out of his body and half of it actually goes in and down towards testicles. And the entire inside of that banana, the fruit of that banana is the spongy tissue of three erectile tissue chambers that are these basically like three fingers inside the penis. And they fill with blood very quickly because the mechanism of action of an erection is that when it fills with blood, it actually plumps up to the point where it locks off and closes the door to trap the blood in. The endothelial system, the smooth muscle tissue, has to be in good shape, which is why when men begin to have atherosclerosis, black in their blood, fatty arteries that calcify, the tissue can’t lock off and so they can’t hold the blood in and so they lose erectile function. For the female body, we have the same banana’s worth of tissue, but it is a circle with a point at the top. And the circle goes around the vaginal balloon and comes to a point at the top and the labia themselves, the outer labia are the legs of the clitoris. The arms go back toward the erythral sponge, which is the G-spot, but it’s not a spot, it’s a long spongy tube. And we have a clitoral shaft and a gland, it’s a head, just— it’s a small penis. Same as our male body parts. And We have a perineal sponge on the bottom of our vaginal canal between the vagina and rectum. So we’re literally surrounded like a golden bracelet with this erectile tissue and it needs to swell to get our lady erection. And when a woman is getting that erection, it takes her about 20 minutes, sometimes 30 minutes if it’s been a while for, to get full erectile capacity in her pelvic bowl. And it also takes her that long to recruit the blood into her pelvic bowl to seep through the vaginal mucusal lining to wet it because the vagina is a muscle. It’s stretchy muscle, it’s not a glam, so it’s not self lubricating. When estrogen declines, that tissue of that muscle thins and doesn’t hold as much moisture, which also makes sex painful. And the opening to the vagina that rounds sphincter muscle, the introidal sphincter, thins as well and gets particularly delicate as estrogen declines. So if she’s not taking an nitric oxide booster, she’s not exercising, she’s sitting a lot and she doesn’t do estrogen replacement therapy. Basically, everything’s collapsing in there and the blue end if she’s rushed to intercourse because she just wants to get it over with or whatever because he’s erect so she’s got to be ready. Then there’s all this pressure on her, she’s come in with stress. She wasn’t turned on in the first place, she feels this duty to have sex because her husband is horney all the time because he’s got a higher testosterone profile. He gets if he’s healthy, he gets morning erections. He masturbates daily to keep his sperm fresh because he’s biologically wired to do it, so he’s thinking about sex more than she is. He’s already ready to go in two minutes, she needs 20 or 30 minutes, which is why the yony massage is so important for her. She needs to have an and she’s not socially oriented toward initiating sex. Nor is she ready when he’s making an offer for intercourse. When he says do you want to have sex, that means intercourse and she’s like so far away from that. If a couple understands a number of things, the first is that I say to guys who they end up in victimhood. I know, I know she always says no. It’s like because you’re making this giant friggin’ offer. Start small. Would you like a foot-rub? I’ve got the fireplace on in the bedroom, I’ve poured some water, I’ve put down a blanket, I’ve got the oil warmed and I’d love to give you a yony massage. No pressure if you don’t want to go any further, but I would love to get my hands on you and give you some pleasure. If a guy backs down to that. She’s going to be… are you sure you’re not going to pressure me for sex for intercourse? No, I am not going to. I’m going to fill you up with pleasure and orgasms, on demand as much as you want and you can go further when you want and if you’re tired you can roll over and go to sleep. I’ll give you a kiss on the lips and I’ll cover your little shoulders up and I’ll turn off the lights. When you can get to that point where our male body partners understand how much time we need to get out of our head and into our body, that we’re not the initiators of sex and that’s just a blue bird day when she’s asking for it. sex is just intercourse that it requires us 20 or 30 minutes of what we call foreplay, but what I think about as it’s all sex, then it really changes the dynamic. To one where a couple begins to have an intimate life of pleasure, of orgasm, of joy, of awakening, of slowing down, of connecting, of conversation, of relaxation. Once you can get a couple to that point, they start getting on what I like to call the upward pleasure spiral, that moment where sex has started getting better and better instead of worse and worse for them over time. And the beautiful thing is that it’s never too late to begin these practices. 

JANNINE: I think you’ve just described the first part of it in terms of, you know, rush getting to it. I think a lot of women and men, of course, do not know that that time frame exists. 

SUSAN: Of course, this is why I do what I do. 

JANNINE: Absolutely, absolutely. I think this is huge because that is one of the biggest issues that I hear from women over and over again in my practice is like, he’s ready to go, I need to hurry up and it’s like, no, no, it’s not how your body works. You know, I’ve been asked, you know, can you give me something? Is there a medication to support him? 

SUSAN: Yeah. Like, get me a horny pill. So I want my husband. Yeah, I know. They’re miserable. 

JANNINE: Yeah. And so, you know, sometimes I’ve gone down the road because of course, I noticed that you have some notes about sexual biohacking and things of that nature. You know, we’ve, I’ve given folks oxytocin nasal sparse, you know, and we’ve tried different things of that nature. But if they, if this 20 minute, you know, time frame of getting the circulation going isn’t, you know, utilize it, mute point. And this one of those things that I’m so glad you’re highlighting is incredibly important. 

SUSAN: Two things about that. One is that I say to women, imagine that you’ve been having intercourse your whole life with a flaccid clitoris. That’s basically what’s been happening. And you need the blood to flow into your pelvic bowl to expand all that erectile tissue. There’s three erectile tissue systems that work in concert that are that golden bracelet. And when they’re flaccid, they’re small. When they’re plump and engorged, they’re big. And when you touch something big, it has more surface area sending more signals to your brain, which is your biggest sectorian. There’s a couple of things I want to share with you. One is I make my own yogurt for my morning smoothies out of a bacteria called lactobilus ruterae. Oxyzutics is the name of the company that makes it. They have a product called gut to glow. And you can take the probiotic. But what I do is I actually culture it and make my own homemade yogurt. And that’s what I use in my smoothies. And it’s the bacteria that helps me make my own oxytocin. I’m a poor oxytocin maker. So I needed that bacteria in there to have that. And the second thing that I wanted to tell you about was a product line of lubricants that I really like called Foria. I think I have it right here. I will get you some sent. I’ll get some sent to you if you want to. I love, like it’s stuck on my little earphones, got stuck. I love this particular brand so much that I begged them to let me be an official company spokesperson for them to spread the word. This is CBD based lubricant, a CBD based awakening oil, and a CBD based vaginal suppository called melts. And what’s really cool about it is that I call this the pleasure protocol. As a matter of fact, the link to this is at pleasureprotocol.com. You put the oil, this awakening oil on the vulva, the outer labia, interlavia, clitoral hood, mons, clitoris itself, the opening to the vagina called the vestibule, the opening to the actual vaginal area is called the introidal sphincter, the perineal area. Just put a small coating of that all over it. Give it a second. And what happens is that the botanicals in it and the CBD start to activate, so it’s phyto-cannabinoids from hemp plant, but they activate our endo-cannabinoid system, which is our pleasure healing pathway. And what you’re trying— you want to think about, I got to get blood flow to my vulva. I’m going to, you know, I’m going to do my nitric oxide things, and then I’m going to awaken the connection between my brain and my body using this botanical CBD activator. And then I’m going to add in the oil, the CBD based oil for the lubricant. And if I need more internal lubrication, I’ll put one of the cocoa butter CBD melts up inside. I love that. I love having everything nice and fluid and juicy and, you know, resilient and trying to get a lube up inside your vagina is difficult. But when you just pop the cocoa butter melt in there and it melts up in there, it stays in there. So that by the time you have your yoni massage with all that oil, you’ve got all that engorgement. And then when you’re ready to be penetrated, it’s nice and lubricated already. All of that is what helps women start to have orgasms from intercourse without even touching the tip of their clitoris. You’re literally having orgasms from intercourse because all that tissue is finely engorged. And the whole vagina is wrapped in it. So the motions of intercourse can finally trigger her orgasms from intercourse. I think that’s a really nice combination that nobody ever made until for you did and I just love it. 

JANNINE: I’ve never heard of anything quite like it. You know, I have— 

SUSAN: Let me know if you want it. 

JANNINE: Of course. Of course, I think every woman’s probably like, okay, you sign me up. You know, because I think for so many women will come to me too and say, you know, Doc, I’ve never had an orgasm. Is there something wrong with me? And you know, in my mind, I’m like, you know, I don’t know, you know, let’s investigate further. And most of the times, you know, I’m looking into hormones and things of that nature, of course. Circulation could simply be the problem in and of itself, lubrication and how you’re describing you know, just in general, how deep the melt is going to go into the whole area of circulation because I think that’s one of the things we overlook because in a lot of products that I’ve heard about before, they’re talking more about just the clitoris. They’re not talking about the whole whole vagina, the whole area. And so I’m thinking to myself, hmm, this is definitely unique. It’s something I’ve never heard about before and can be a game changer probably for anyone who’s open to do, you know, trying it out as a whole. 

SUSAN: I think also going back to pornography and to media sex, it all shows guys just pumping away on us. And one of the things that I really, really want people to do is to learn how to have intercourse that feels good to a vagina. And if you— grab another thing, I have a little red balloon here that I’m holding up. This is just your basic, like the balloon you would make a water balloon out of, those little balloons. And this is what a vagina looks like. A vagina is not a tube. It’s not an inside out penis. It’s actually a round ball with a neck, a skinny neck and a little sphincter at the end, just like the end of a balloon is. And there’s a depression in the top where the cervix kind of drops down into that balloon, that cave. And it’s flat and empty like a deflated balloon before we’re engorged and turned on. So it’s not this sheath like a sword in a sheath. And friction, especially for older women, is not our friend. And so when our partners are just going, it’s not that pleasurable for us. And so one of the things I put together were 10, penetrative intercourse techniques for couples that they could practice and learn that are more in line with giving her the pleasure she needs as the vagina owner that still feel equally as good to the penis owner. So because it’s never shown anywhere or depicted anywhere and because what I do for a living thing is right, passionate love making techniques. My 10 orgasm inducing intercourse skills are at orgasmicintercourse.com. Feel free to go there and you’ll get all 10 of them. I just, I have so much information to give that I like to just put it in some place where depending on your listener, they’re going to go, okay, I want the pleasure protocol or, oh, no, I want to know the orgasmic intercourse techniques or I want the orgasmic cross-training thing or whatever. I just put everything out there. It’s free. And you know, my job is the opportunity that I have is to just help as many people as possible have satisfying intimacy that really makes their lives so much happier, lowers their guilt, their shame, their stress by teaching them the things that they’ve never gotten taught to remove that guilt and shame and stress. And I think when women realize what their vaginas are actually like and how they want to be pleasure and then they teach their partners that are they learn together, it’s just such a game changer. 

JANNINE: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, just looking through your website and all your resources, I was like, wow, there are so many things here that yeah, I’m interested in checking this out that out, you know, because maybe it was, you know, a control thing, whatever it may be, you know, we have been shafted. Let’s put it that way in terms of getting the know. 

SUSAN: Ah, that’s good. Shafted literally and figuratively. Oh, Janine. Well, that was good. 

JANNINE: Total pun intended. But we haven’t been given, you know, this information. And so I think it’s, it needs to, you know, a lot of times I think about how can I have my patients be healthier and happier. Happier is kind of the big one. And so much of what folks will come into me, you know, I’m part physician, part counselor. It lets, let’s be real here. And so a lot of times folks will come in and they’ll be like, you know, I just don’t feel good in my relationship. Things aren’t going well. And I have to think about like, is part of the issue because we haven’t been taught these things about how we can connect on a deeper level and how we can find pleasure in each other versus alcohol or drugs or things of that nature. And so this is why I really wanted to highlight on the endocannabinoid system and how we can tap into this and so many different ways. 

SUSAN: Yeah, the endo-cannabinoid system is fascinating to me. Being able to activate my own endogenous cannabinoid system for that pleasure healing pathway. There’s two more things I wanted to tell you about. 

JANNINE: Yeah.

SUSAN:  And I want to go like one level deeper into what I would call sexual regenerative practices. 

JANNINE: Mm-hmm. 

SUSAN: Sexual biohacking. I’m a biohacker. I do cold light. I do cold therapy, cryotherapy, red light. I use a vasper machine. I take Senolytics. I’m, you know, I’m doing a lot of things to keep my youthful expression and my vitality. And one of the things that you have to start chasing about mid fifties, early to mid fifties is vaginal atrophy. And there are two things I like to recommend. One is a DIY, do it yourself at home device called the vagina device. And the other is a done for you go get the treatments. And it is, most women when they think about vaginal rejuvenation, what they’ve been sold is lasering. The CO2 lasers and RF devices intra vaginal. The problem with that is that that was basically some dudes that own some laser companies and they’re like, well, we’re doing it on their faces and their décolletage and their neck and their arms and stuff. Now, let’s stick it in their vaginas and rejuvenate the tissue that way too. The problem is that the vaginal mucus lining is so damn delicate that when you zap it with a laser so that you’re damaging the subcutaneous mucusal tissue to recollagenate and regenerate new tissue growth, you are doing a level of hormesis that is to me an unacceptable level of hormesis. I don’t think we need to wound ourselves to have weeping vaginal canals to regenerate new tissue growth. Because there is an alternative and it is an alternative called shockwave or acoustic wave. And it’s becoming it first rolled out for men of course as gains wave. But now there is something called femi wave. They’ve brought out the female version and the reason that I like it is that the inside your vagina, yes, that’s a part of what begins to atrophy and thin with the estrogen loss and the loss of the nitric oxide and loss of lubrication. Then your organs start to drop, drop your bladder drops, you might have a prolapse. You’ve got all these things, this incontinence which is misery, peeing in your pants or peeing on the way to the bathroom because you’ve got urge incontinence. I mean it’s just nutsy. I hate it. I’m always chasing it myself. And femi wave, why I think it’s such a breakthrough is that they have taken a holistic approach to using acoustic wave on the entire vulva, not just inside the vagina. So they’re reconstituting the outer labial tissue, the mons area, the clitoris, the clitoral tip and glands, they’re getting in between the labia and getting the waves going inside there, it’s going into the vaginal area, into the perineal area. So what it’s basically doing is it’s generating very gently without burning you. It’s using waves instead of lasers and the waves, you do two treatments a week over three weeks, is it like a typical treatment, you can space it out more, I’m delicate, I space mine out more. Some women aren’t as delicate as I am. And it just plumps up the vulva, it plumps up the labia, it reconstitutes the clitoral tissue, the perineal tissue, the urethral tissue, it reverses the incontinence. I have been more lubricated in my 60s. I’m dripping wet from that femi wave treatment. And more than I was in my 20s, it’s incredibly efficacious. However, it’s not available everywhere yet. And if you can’t afford to travel to a place, my best alternative is something called the vagina devices, this is from a woman-owned company called Joy Lux, they’re distributed primarily in doctors offices, but you can buy them direct. If you go to vaginadevice.com, what this does is it’s a little device that you put inside you. You slide it in your vagina, now it’s not going to reconstitute your clitoral structure or your labia, so it’s not as good. But if you’ve got vaginal thinning, vaginal laxity, incontinence, loss of lubrication, and every woman is going, yep, yep, yep, yep. This uses red light therapy, photobio modulation. And the photobio modulation stimulates the mitochondria, the batteries of the cells of the vaginal lining, to generate in thick and more tissue. The red light also stimulates the glycogen, which falls as our estrogen falls and is what the good bacteria eat. So it feeds our good bacteria so we don’t get vaginal microbiome dysphiosis, urinary tract or vaginal infections. It cuts down on that, and there are women who’ve told me, “You always had kind of a little bit of odor that I didn’t like, and I would go to my gynecologist and she would say, you don’t have anything, there’s nothing in there, but I didn’t like the way I smelled, and then the red light got rid of that problem for me.” And this red light also is warm, so it’s bringing collagen in with the warmth, and it also uses vibration for kegel toning for the incontinence. And this you do, like you start out with for six minutes, and then you go to eight minutes every other day, then you can go to 10 minutes, but it’s 10 minutes every other day for like eight weeks. So it’s more of a, it’s like making a stew, you’re doing low and slow remediation where the femi wave is like you’re done in a couple of weeks and it’s much faster and a little more holistic, but it’s also more expensive. So you’ve got a couple of options now that I think are way better than anything we’ve ever had before. Combine that with your nitric oxide, your hormone replacement therapy, and your yony massage, and you have completely reinvigorated your sex life.

JANNINE: I love it. I love it. Yeah, I think so many women, you know, just what you just described, all the different symptoms from incontinence to a lot of vaginitis. Let’s put it that way where there’s no specified, you know, agent that’s causing issues, but and then sometimes smell changes, sometimes chronic discharge, and you keep going back to the doc and that’s like, yeah, there’s nothing there. Or unfortunately might have been subjected to antibiotic, anti-fungal, anti-fungal, and nothing quite resolved. So, you know, that’s awesome. And definitely folks, we’re going to have all of these notes because there’s a lot of references here. So you got to head over to doctorjkrausend.com for more information. My goodness, Susan, I think we could probably have like 85 podcasts on information for women because there’s just so much out there now that unfortunately isn’t as talked about. And then of course that’s why you’re here and why we want to promote all of these different things to help women because, wait, you know, having, you know, having a better sex life is vitality. It is helping. You know, it’s one of the best biohacks out there and one of the things that goes a long way over time. And so I think it’s incredibly helpful. So thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for sharing your information. I appreciate it. And I look forward to putting this podcast out. Thanks again for coming on. 

SUSAN: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me and giving air and a platform for women to have a private conversation about the things that they really are worried about and don’t know what to do. I mean, you are creating such a great service with your show. So thank you for having me. And I would love to come back anytime. I’ve got so much more. 

JANNINE: Absolutely. Absolutely. And that being said, of course, let’s tell folks, you know, your main website and at least all the resources where they can find them, like, quick, quick search, if they’re thinking now, like, okay, I need to know what, where to start. Give me a little bit — 

SUSAN: Yeah. Just go to betterlover.com. You’ll see an opportunity to get onto my newsletter. If you like the things I’ve been saying, this is what I write about every day. I don’t know about every single day, but, you know, I send out a weekly digest. Newsletter with all my thoughts. And betterlover gets you kind of into the zone. The Yoning Massage videos are there. They’re all free. And if you get an email from me and you reply to it, you can ask me anything from any email you get from me. And I will get your request and your question. And I will personally reply to you. Sometimes it’ll be just to send you a link to the thing you asked, you know, like, what was that thing? Sometimes it’ll be to just kind of dissect a problem. I feel like the last 20 years of having people asking me anything has really been what’s made me good at what I do. So it’s really a labor of love. So I’m here for anyone that wants more. 

JANNINE: Good deal. Good deal. Well, thank you, because this is definitely a topic that it’s hard to bring up with your doctor. I’ve found for a lot of folks. You know, me, I’m open to it. You know, I’ll talk about anything, but I know for a lot of doctors, it’s hard for them to even communicate. So it’s good to have a resource. 

SUSAN: Thank you. 

JANNINE: Thank you again. 

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